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Chris
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24-09-2015, 12:10 PM
Millions of dogs are fed commercial dog food every day without undue effect. Wet food (which the op's dog is currently being fed) is designed to be fed at room temperature (ie straight from the tin).

Scaremongering does nothing to help the op. Neither does it help those with dogs who simply will not eat a raw diet.
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24-09-2015, 01:18 PM
Originally Posted by Chris View Post
Millions of dogs are fed commercial dog food every day without undue effect. Wet food (which the op's dog is currently being fed) is designed to be fed at room temperature (ie straight from the tin).

Scaremongering does nothing to help the op. Neither does it help those with dogs who simply will not eat a raw diet.
Yes, I've heard it all b4.
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24-09-2015, 02:18 PM
Raw feeding does have an evangelical following, but relies on the easy availability of a variety of quality meats and vegetables. As Chris says, there are many dogs that do not enjoy raw food, and owners who do not have the facilities to store and prepare it.
There is nothing wrong with feeding a quality specialist prepared food, (I don't mean from the supermarket aisles), which can also be garnished with vegetables and cooked meat. I don't eat a palaeolithic diet, so why should my dogs?
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24-09-2015, 03:14 PM
I don't eat a palaeolithic diet, so why should my dogs?[/QUOTE]

Dogs are not human. They do not have the same digestive system as humans.
I don't eat a processed diet every day, so why should my dogs?
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24-09-2015, 04:10 PM
I raw feed but I get fed up with the evangelists too, raw isn't suitable for every dog or every owner. It takes space to store for a start and most people simply can't accommodate an extra freezer. I've also had previous dogs fed on a quality kibble, not one of them suffered from allergies or skin problems, teeth issues or anything else. Why can some raw feeders never accept there are other ways to feed and by keeping on just alienate people they are hoping to influence.
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24-09-2015, 04:18 PM
I might add too that it depends on the dog. Sophie is finicky. Her meals have to be the same mix every time. Callie enjoys his vegetables and is happy to inhale anything in his bowl.
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27-09-2015, 10:52 PM
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Please keep in mind the effects of food poisoning from having processed food at room temperature.

I read your response the other day and I wasn't going to reply. You know sometimes you hear or see something and you just can't stop thinking about it? You become worried every time you come face to face with something? I've come to the point where I need to do something, or say (type) something because in my 6 years of research, one thing I've learned is that our pets put their trust in us to care for them and to educate ourselves in that caring for them.

I was just reading yet another article about the effects of commercial pet food (processed pet food) and again, the image of your little pup popped up in my mind... Damn I thought. Why? I can guarantee that this little pup is going to start having skin problems, liver problems, ear, teeth and gum problems and so much more, for what?..
I wish there was something I could type that would help you understand why our pets become, what you describe as "fussy" eaters. I guess it all boils down to "what we offer them to eat". Their immune system needs to be 100% to cope with our society, the chemicals from flea and worm treatments, vaccinations (which most pet carers over vaccinate), environment, stress, pesticides... wow, I could go on. I will share this article with you.

http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2010/05/26/three-major-reasons-to-feed-your-pet-a-homemade-diet.aspx[/URL]

Watch a few more of Karen Beckers video's, she is very good and know's what she is taking about.

Believe me, I know why they are fussy eaters. Any pet introduced to commercial pet food are fussy eaters. I know, I have been there. I have since learnt a lot and since I introduced raw to my puppy successfully and with me it wasn't hard as they soon realised that they were on a good thing.
Yes, it takes persistence and patience for some, but it is well worth it. No vet bills!!

If you have done all the research that you possibly can, into the effects of commercial pet food and raw feeding, all your patience has worn thin, your persistence has run dry and you have NO money to support your puppies health, then I say good on you. But I don't believe your puppy will thrive. He will be fine for 4-5 years, but then he will deteriorate slowly.... and you will think back and wonder, if only.

I have said my peace and I will not bother you again, I just needed to give you some sincere advice.
I wish you and your pup all the best.
Thank you for putting the time into writing this however I didn't like you telling me my dog isn't thriving and will deteriorate.. Anyways, I get the best commercial dog food AND cat food that I can. I chose Orijen for my cats and for my puppy but he stopped eating it, now I give him performatrin wet food where most of the ingredients is real food plus vitamins. Nothing I can't pronounce. I occasionally give him eggs, steak, brocolli and other vegetables, blueberries and fruit. In my mind a quality 'commercial' pet food made by people who care about pet health that have done their research is good enough for me.

To the other poster I have tried to microwave it before and leaving it out, he still doesn't like it. I'm thinking he tries a food once then he realizes he gets sick of it or something. Another theory is maybe while I'm at work he's eating all the cats food so he's not hungry at dinner when I usually feed him the second half of the can? I'm going to put the cats food where he cant reach and see if that solves it.


Thanks for the replies so far
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04-10-2015, 06:35 PM
Originally Posted by CaroleC View Post
Raw feeding does have an evangelical following, but relies on the easy availability of a variety of quality meats and vegetables. As Chris says, there are many dogs that do not enjoy raw food, and owners who do not have the facilities to store and prepare it.
There is nothing wrong with feeding a quality specialist prepared food, (I don't mean from the supermarket aisles), which can also be garnished with vegetables and cooked meat. I don't eat a palaeolithic diet, so why should my dogs?
I do!! Best diet ever - except for the banning of alcohol, which I am afraid I ignore. Otherwise, I strive to eat a palaeolithic diet - and have lost 20 kilos!!
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05-10-2015, 10:48 AM
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I can guarantee that this little pup is going to start having skin problems, liver problems, ear, teeth and gum problems and so much more, for what?.. .
Sorry but how can you possibly guarantee that this pup will have all those problems. I've had dogs who were on a commercial diet and were very healthy who had none of the above problems.

Originally Posted by ANI View Post
Believe me, I know why they are fussy eaters. Any pet introduced to commercial pet food are fussy eaters.
My present dog is on raw and I can guarantee you he is extremely fussy about his food. One day he will eat chicken, the next he won't. He went through a phase where he would only eat tripe then he stopped eating it. He won't eat beef he won't eat vegetables or fruit nor will he eat organs.

I do have thoughts about putting him onto a commercial food, giving him a few more weeks with raw but if he continues to be fussy then onto commercial food he will go.

Believe me there are no guarantees and no knowing everything about dogs no matter how much you would like to believe all you say.

You could have written about your thoughts in the raw food section instead of using it as a reply which was not at all useful to the question Kolkim asked.
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08-10-2015, 08:33 PM
Refrigerating food tends to remove the smell, which is important to dogs, it why things like tomatoes don't taste as good straight out of the fridge. It's also why I put oral baytril for my small furries into the fridge, because it's bitter, they take it much better from a fridge.
As said its may be worthwhile taking it out to warm up to room temp before feeding.
I can't quite understand the logic about allowing food to come to room temp increasing bacteria when it's quoted time and again that dogs have a high acid content in their stomach to kills bacteria and this is why it's safe to feed raw, when research has shown it also has a varied and often infectious bacterial content?
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