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Location: Cardiff, UK
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04-08-2011, 06:45 AM
there was one episode, basic problem (not aggression)dog responded well & fast to CM methods & the owner was not allowed to praise the good ,
she was not alowed to praise the good calm behaviour. but they just waited (which of course happened , because the good stuff was not praised) for the dog to go wrong again.
What a shame eh? Awful awful training
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Location: Bad Fallingbostel, Germany
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04-08-2011, 07:57 AM
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Location: A Scot in Thailand
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04-08-2011, 08:13 AM
Originally Posted by ClaireandDaisy 
Most new people say hello, post photos of their dogs, chat, get to know us....
Then there are the attention seekers.
Ever heard of free will and each to their own?
Talk about pack hierarchy!
You have just bitten!
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Location: A Scot in Thailand
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04-08-2011, 08:37 AM
Originally Posted by rune
If you really are in Thailand then I don't suppose you can do too much more harm to the dogs than would be their lot anyway.
I suppose you also think that the NGC and CM are part of a global plot to make people poke their dogs! ! ! You are right about one thing though, our dogs are probably the luckiest in Phuket. 
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Location: A Scot in Thailand
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04-08-2011, 08:43 AM
Originally Posted by sarah1983
Actually it's the opposite way round. My husbands assertiveness frightens my dog at times. He's military and his stance and the way he barks out orders are TOO assertive for Rupe a lot of the time. .
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04-08-2011, 09:06 AM
Originally Posted by BangKaew
I have sometimes thought about that. In my case the dog when a puppy probably thought I was no leader of him because I can not jump up and make him stop doing something. I was able to get the message across with energy though. I think dogs are different to wolves , when Cesar's pitbull Daddy was 16 he still was pack leader. I think what dogs grow up thinking stays with them. My dog was taught a lesson by a few dogs when he was a puppy and, although he could probably give them a lesson now, he still gives them a wide berth now. I think my dog loves me too much to want to take over.
The dominance theory falls down in so many ways, but when the anomalies are pointed out, excuses, often quite intricate, are made to make it fit.
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Location: A Scot in Thailand
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04-08-2011, 10:01 AM
Blame the NGC
so if something nice happens then they are more likely to do it again
If something nasty happens they are less likely to try it again
also if nice thing happen they are more likely to try different things, be more confident and actually become smarter
but I dont see any animals in the wild just running and wasting valuable energy just for the h£ll of it - not a good survival strategy
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He isnt the 1st person to say that, I kinda believe you get the dog you get - deal with it
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Or we have so many issues that any dog will teach us something!
My dogs work for their food
they come back when I call them because they like being around me - sometimes I give them food, sometimes I play with a toy, sometimes I am going a different path, sometimes I want to show them something they might find interesting
You really should look into clicker training - yes it is rewarding the dog - not ness with food although thats what I use - but the clicker means you can reward the exact second the dog does the right thing so things are clearer and they understand faster
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