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14-12-2008, 05:54 PM
I don't think they do report inaccurately. But if you are correct and health testing SHOULD be carried out on Beagle breeding stock, then both the KC and the breed clubs are reporting inaccurately by saying that no tests are required.
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14-12-2008, 05:56 PM
Originally Posted by Pidge 
Whoa, steady on. I'm not getting into a big one over this as I simply don't know enough about it.
The point I was making was that there is an increasing amount of poor publicity towards the KC lately because of un-ethical breeding standards and I don't like it.
We didn't go out to actively search for a KC registered puppy. We found him on Gumtree and he was KC Reg already and we are not going to breed from him, never even crossed our minds until we'd had him a month and some people we were meeting on walks told us we should look into it. So we did and we now have no desire to stud him at all. He's just a pet to us.
What does the KC advise about finding a puppy-look on Gumtree ???? I don't think so
These people you have met are English Springer Spaniel owners/vets/gamekeepers etc ???
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14-12-2008, 06:00 PM
Yet you say......
Then you say you don't know any breeder of Beagles that do health tests... apart from yours, that is!!!
Which is it!!!!!!!!!!
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14-12-2008, 06:02 PM
My breed has very good hip scores across the board but that is only because people have been so careful about it and continue to be. Even dogs with an excellent hip score can throw the odd pup with a poor hip score?
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14-12-2008, 06:06 PM
Originally Posted by Ramble
Surely all dogs used for breeding should have their hips scored at the very least???
My breed has very good hip scores across the board but that is only because people have been so careful about it and continue to be. Even dogs with an excellent hip score can throw the odd pup with a poor hip score?
Absolutely the only breed of dog in which HD has never been diagnosed is the Racing Greyhound. A study involving 1500 greyhounds was carried out & they were all x rayed. None had HD & todate there are no cases of HD that have been diagnosed in this type of Greyhound
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14-12-2008, 06:11 PM
Originally Posted by Ramble
Surely all dogs used for breeding should have their hips scored at the very least???
My breed has very good hip scores across the board but that is only because people have been so careful about it and continue to be. Even dogs with an excellent hip score can throw the odd pup with a poor hip score?
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14-12-2008, 06:22 PM
Originally Posted by Ramble
Surely all dogs used for breeding should have their hips scored at the very least???
I would have thought that it would make sense to screen ALL breeds for any health condition that has been known to occur in the breed - even if just occasionally.
It's one thing to argue that they don't want to alienate members by forcing them to test, but what's the harm in recommending it?
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14-12-2008, 06:32 PM
Originally Posted by scarter
Have you any idea why the KC and Breed Clubs for many breeds choose not to even recommend it, let alone require it?
I would have thought that it would make sense to screen ALL breeds for any health condition that has been known to occur in the breed - even if just occasionally.
It's one thing to argue that they don't want to alienate members by forcing them to test, but what's the harm in recommending it?
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14-12-2008, 06:39 PM
Originally Posted by scarter
Have you any idea why the KC and Breed Clubs for many breeds choose not to even recommend it, let alone require it?
I would have thought that it would make sense to screen ALL breeds for any health condition that has been known to occur in the breed - even if just occasionally.
It's one thing to argue that they don't want to alienate members by forcing them to test, but what's the harm in recommending it?
They do..and so does your breed club does it not, or your breeder would not have had her dogs done!!
Originally Posted by Ramble
But the KC do say on their site that any breed can be tested...
Although sad to say some breed clubs (my own included) do not see HD as a problem, so do not require hip scoring.
Some breeders in my breed will do so, not many sadly..but in the US it is a requirement...one day hopefully, they will see the necessity for it.
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