Theres a Min pin in europe somewhere that can do it, its amazing!!!! Its on utube....SOMEWHERE

I bet it is! Probably got a fab action as well.
The dog I knew was Fly, Attila's BC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jrmv6rBx_vE

Apologies have not been following all of this so much as have should have. A dog/s and owner being safe, enjoying whatever they do together and of benefit to all should be how should be. Dogs and humans have(or should have) a very special bond from ages past, to manipulate them in order to fit into human ways if cause harm and distress should be considered very much more.

Ahhhh thankyou!!!!!!!

Thats the one!

I have an HPR, but her prey drive is restricted to prey only, she is not interested in a ball but I taught her to play with it for food!

I have know several dogs who had no interest in toys and had to be trained to play with them ect. Do you think after a while the dog gets into it and plays with the toy naturally or is it always an artifical repsonse?

Adam

Interesting question, and I do not have a definitive answer, I believe that the dogs I have seen who have been taught this still look for food. Including mine.

If I call my HPR back and he's expecting to be rewarded with the ball/frisbee/toy coming out, he won't take a treat. He turns his head away if I offer one, as if he feels cheated.

I train my dogs to accept another reward in stead of the one they are expecting. My GSD would do the same, but he has to accept the lower hierarchy reward.