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harleypup
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24-07-2009, 05:11 PM

Advice on House training please...

Hello,
I need a bit of help/reassurance, I'm struggling to get Harley used to doing 'his business' outside. We can be outside for AGES...even to the point of him curling up and going to sleep at which point I take him back inside and he pee's as soon as we get indoors.
Any advice on how I can encourage him to go outside? Or, am I just being obsessive as he is only 9 weeks old. He is very good at going on paper(/the little puppy training sheets I found at pets at home) with the odd little accident. Am I trying too much too soon?
We've never had a puppy before, always had rescue dogs who have been house trained, so I'm unsure as to how fast/slow things should progress.
Any advice/words of wisdom would be hugely appreciated.
Thanks, Sian & Harley.
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24-07-2009, 05:30 PM
Keep walking around with him and say whatever word you want to use to encourage him to go , hurry up , be busy etc . Lift him and take him out everytime he wakens , eats , drinks or if he just is looking around as if for a place to do it . Keep him in the same room as you at all times if you can . Just persevere , some pups take longer than others to catch on to the idea . If he goes outside make a great big fuss of him and let him know what a good boy he is .
Be prepared to spend a lot of time standing around in the garden ! If he goes indoors just clean it up and say nothing . Good luck , a bit of hard work now will be worth it in the end
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24-07-2009, 05:41 PM
Bin the puppy pads/paper all they do is teach that it is OK for him to go in doors

Take him out every time he wakes, after meals, when he looks like he is going to go & every hour or so even if he doesn't ask.

Click, masses of praise & then tasty treat as soon as he goes outside
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24-07-2009, 08:54 PM
Thank you for that!
So far this evening I feel like I've been taking him outside every ten minutes! Buuuuut, touch wood! We've not had any accidents inside! It's all been outside!

Going to start tomorrow off with no paper! And just take him outside....ALOT!
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24-07-2009, 11:56 PM
Put the clock in the bin with the pads and paper.

Much of housebreaking is not training the puppy, but making it easier for your puppy, you, and your carpet while its body to catches up to its instincts. At around 8 weeks when the puppy goes to its new home, the time from when it realizes it has to go, and when it can't wait any longer is a matter of seconds. Only time will fix that. You can hardly be expected to be attentive enough to avoid all accidents. There is no sense punishing the puppy for your inattention. It is not fair to punish you either, but you still have to clean it up if you didn't have the puppy outside in time.

Housebreaking starts before you get home with the new puppy. If you don't have a crate, buy one. I prefer the more enclosed, den like plastic ones. Skip the bedding. At first it gets wet, and later it can be chewed into choking hazards. A wire grid in the bottom will help keep the puppy up out of accidents at first. They are available with the crates, but expensive and hard to find. A piece of closely spaced wire closet shelving from a home supply place is cheaper. I am now using a plastic vegetable bin with plenty of holes drilled in the bottom. It helps block off part of the crate for the smaller puppy. If you already have a metal crate, covering it may help. Just make sure you use something the puppy can't pull in and chew. Dogs that start out in crates as little puppies, accept them very well. Never leave an unattended puppy loose in the house. If nobody can watch it, put it in the crate. I suggest letting the dog have its crate all its life. A crate needs to be just big enough for a dog to stretch out in.

Choose a command and spot you want it to use. The less accessible to strays, the less chance of serious disease. If it is a female, choosing a non grassy spot will avoid brown spots later. When you bring it home, take it to the spot and give it the command in a firm, but friendly voice. Keep repeating the command and let the puppy sniff around. Sometimes you need to walk it around to stimulate its body to eliminate. If it does anything, praise it. Really let it know what a good dog it is and how much you love it, and maybe a treat. Note, being out there not only means you can praise it, but it also keeps it from being snatched by a hawk. If it doesn't go, take it inside and give it a drink and any meals scheduled. A young puppy will need to go out immediately afterward. Go to the spot and follow the above routine. Praising it if it goes is extremely important. If it doesn't go, take it back inside and put it in its crate and try again soon. Do not let it loose in the house until it does go.

At first it is your responsibility to know and take the puppy out when it needs to go. It needs to go out the first thing in the morning, after eating, drinking, and sleeping. If it quits playing, and starts running around sniffing, it is looking for a place to go. Take it out quickly. You will just have to be what I call puppy broke until it is a little older. How successful you are depends on how attentive you are.

By the time most dogs are about 3 months old, they have figured out that if they go to the door and stand, you will let them out. The praise slowly shifts to going to the door. Some people hang a bell there for the dog to paw. If your dog doesn't figure this out, try praising it and putting it out if it even gets near the door. When you catch it in the act, give it a sharp ''Ah, ah, ah!'' and take it out. Clean up accidents promptly. I mostly keep the little puppies out of the carpeted rooms. Still I need the can of carpet foam sometimes. First blot up all the urine you can with a dry towel. Keep moving it and stepping on it until a fresh area stays dry. A couple big putty knives work well on bowel movements. Just slide one under it while holding it with the other. This gets it up with a minimum of pushing it down into the carpet. This works with even relatively soft ones, vomit, dirt from over turned house plants, or anything else from solids to thick liquids. Finish up with a good shot of carpet foam. Note, do not let the puppy lick up the carpet foam. Once the dog is reliably housebroken, your carpet may need a good steam cleaning.

Many people strongly strongly push cleaning up all evidence of past accidents. I am slower to suggest that. Dogs will return to the same spot if they can find it. When you see one sniffing the spot, that is your clue to run it out.
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25-07-2009, 07:05 PM
Thats awesome advice! Thank you so much for that Labman! He is getting good at letting me know when he wants to go...I need to be faster at picking up on the signs tho, at the moment I can't tell whether he's just having a good sniff around or sniffing for a place to go....then I notice which it is....too late! So I'm just going to start
taking him out side as soon as he sniffs!
Thanks again Labman!
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