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Originally Posted by
Lynn
I agree we have to help our own but I also believe we should help overseas too but I also agree it should get to those who need it most.
Helena I like to give to the homeless but I tend to buy them something like a hot meal and an extra sausage for the dog as many will spend money on drink and drugs who can blame them ?
Someone who was homeless was speaking the other day on tv and saying by giving money you are not really helping a hot drink or food is more beneficial. Similar scenario to giving abroad and the money not doing what it is meant for. I try to buy a big issue when I can too and if I cannot I always say sorry not today and smile that was another thing I learnt from listening to the homeless on tv they would appreciate being acknowledged and not ignored even if you don't buy the magazine.
Something that stays with me when I learnt this was when I was in Norwich with Gorden and the boys Mark lived there for a while and it was christmas time and this guy was selling the big issue I smiled and said not today and he was so pleased I smiled and spoke he said to me what a lovely smile and thank you. It made my day and obviously his.
As for aids in Africa do you know the men rape the women even if they have aids the women have no choice they do not want aids and to leave their children and knowing their children will die also do you think money to help educate for that is a waste ?
I have to agree with Joedee on the social history issue we have done a lot of bad things in some of these countries and owe them.
I understand what you're saying about those homeless, but I couldn't be doing with walking around town with a hot meal in my hand, although I will remember to take something for the dogs next time I go down there!
I've got to know a lot of these peops, and yes of course, some of them are druggies and junkies, but not the ones I give to they're not, and they all have the Big Issue mag which I don't want, but just give them money anyway, because that smile I get from them when they see me coming or when I give them the money means a lot to me!
I realise what you say about the men in Africa, but it's their culture, it's the way they live, and there's a heck of a lot of them in such a big country, we can't change the world, unless of course, you want us to use all of our resources and turn their country into one like ours, but that's not gonna happen is it. I think we're lucky to have been born into what we have, but I'm afraid I won't be spending my one and only life either worrying about how they're coping in other countries, or trying to change their lifestyle into mine, I've got enough worries trying to keep our own heads above the water, keep ourselves safe from all the c*ap out there, and keep my dogs safe from harm. Selfish? Yeah, maybe, but I will help those near to me, dear to me, and those further away but inside my own country, and no further thanks! I'm no missionary!
Regarding the money to help educate them, well, we already give them education not only over there, but over here, and when they're educated over there, then they come over here coz they know what they can get from our crazy benefit system, whereby WE still have poor souls in cardboard boxes on our streets, and they are the ones in the £2,000 a week houses!!!!!
One of Dave's customers fosters two teenagers, one is British and one is from Africa. She cannot understand just WHY, the english kid gets nothing, he has to pay for everything he wants, and yet the African kid gets absolutely everything he wants all paid for! It's got to the stage where she's having real problems between the two of them because the english kid is jealous of this. He got a brand new laptop, courtesy of HM Government
, and when he ran out of ink on his new printer, he told the woman to ask them for new inks coz he refused to pay for them
in the full knowledge that he would get them for free, along with everything else he's got!!! Now I ask you, is that really fair??!! NO!