Isn`t it time Adam was asked to leave?
Am I the only one getting fed up with hearing the sick ramblings of his diseased mind?

Happy, attentive dog n not a plonk(whoops sorry)prong collar in sight n Rupert is lovely. Will say no more n or offence to anyone (jmo).

I had to look twice then put the zoom on. What could look like chain all around the neck looks like a patterned fabric on closer look

sorry they actually are a full chain, with a half check function, i like em

can see it a little better here

No, Adam, the argument given is correct. Half checks can be adjusted so that they do not have a choke action, as I'm sure you know...

Adam, can you really not see the difference between the lab with prong collar, and the others dogs shown in the photos?

Things like whole body posture, eye contact with trainer, soft eyes, laughing faces... interest... anticipation... wrinkles or lack of them around the face... tension or no tension ... so much more....

Ah, this shows them better . Actually, I have seen them - both half check and flat collar version.

Gorgeous doglets by the way, Dawes Paws. Really nice, and happy looking

Wys
xxx

Well I don't hav a 2.2 in animal behaviour from Plymouth Uni but to me the dogs above look relaxed and at ease. I can tell this from the general set of their bodies, the position of their 'off duty' ears, and slighly santing eyes. They give an impression of animation.The little one at the front is being iinquisitive.

Contrast that with the dog above in post 484 pic 2 , its whole body language depicts fear and stress, there is no animation, everything droops

.....Adam, your dog is scared of you. How is that good? (other than it means he does as he is told)