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28-11-2010, 05:38 PM
Originally Posted by rune
You really don't understand what the law says do you? Funny as it is you who is saying no one understands!If you make the showing part of a working test you are comforming to the law---and you could show your working dogs with docked tails. Problem solved.
Nothing to do with what I want. I am not the one moaning about it and I don't need proof. I am suggesting a way of getting round the law.
There's no need to add a showing part into the working test as 95% of shows no longer ask for an entrance fee so legally docked can be shown anyway. The problem most people have is the inequality. The KC bleet on about "fit for function" only for dogs that are docked so they can be "fit for function" to be excluded from some shows.
Originally Posted by rune
Thats why I asked. The question was answered. I still think cutting bits off a dog stinks----but I am kind enough to suggest a solution for you. I think the campaign is a loser but I expect it'll keep a few people busy for a while
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28-11-2010, 05:42 PM
Originally Posted by rune 
They are lawfully docked to WORK----not to show! Choice----work or show or----best one DON'T DOCK.
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I love dual purpose breeds, why would you want to split them! The dogs can do the job they were bred to do and are bred to look the part as well. There's just no pleasing some people is there!
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28-11-2010, 05:47 PM
Originally Posted by Ripsnorterthe2nd
I love dual purpose breeds, why would you want to split them! The dogs can do the job they were bred to do and are bred to look the part as well
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28-11-2010, 05:57 PM
Originally Posted by rune
I'd like it fair as well---all tails kept on!
Jack russells you can't show anyway and dobermannns---no excuse.
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Jack Russells you CAN show, even if you are talking companion shows they are done by KC rules, so the docking ban still applies. Parson Russell are now docked, the short legged JRT are exhibited in Ireland. As I said I LIKE the way they look, the Dobe, Boxer, Weimaraner and so many others didnt suffer awful injuries on their tails when they didnt have them.
What "tests" would you have Terriers do, in the same vein as you are suggesting tests for gundogs?
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28-11-2010, 06:00 PM
Originally Posted by Borderdawn
And the English Pointer?
Jack Russells you CAN show, even if you are talking companion shows they are done by KC rules, so the docking ban still applies. Parson Russell are now docked, the short legged JRT are exhibited in Ireland. As I said I LIKE the way they look, the Dobe, Boxer, Weimaraner and so many others didnt suffer awful injuries on their tails when they didnt have them.
Next it'll be that old chestnut "Well why aren't Labradors docked then?"!
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28-11-2010, 06:05 PM
Originally Posted by Ripsnorterthe2nd
Next it'll be that old chestnut "Well why aren't Labradors docked then?"!
Cut 'em all off solve all the problems!
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28-11-2010, 06:10 PM
Originally Posted by Borderdawn
We did have that question earlier, unbelievably.
Cut 'em all off solve all the problems!
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28-11-2010, 06:15 PM
Originally Posted by Ripsnorterthe2nd
We are still talking about dogs tails, right?!
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28-11-2010, 06:19 PM
Originally Posted by Borderdawn
And the English Pointer?
Jack Russells you CAN show, even if you are talking companion shows they are done by KC rules, so the docking ban still applies. Parson Russell are now docked, the short legged JRT are exhibited in Ireland. As I said I LIKE the way they look, the Dobe, Boxer, Weimaraner and so many others didnt suffer awful injuries on their tails when they didnt have them.
What "tests" would you have Terriers do, in the same vein as you are suggesting tests for gundogs?
I LIKE the way dogs look as nature made them---before humans chopped them around to suit the way they liked to look at them.
Luckily for me the law now says it is mutilation and doesn't encourage it.
As I said before its like arguing with a welsh dog trainer about e collars
We are going round in circles.
Don't suppose the law will change and as it stands I am happier with it than I was before when tails could be chopped off regardless.
Don't have any sympathy with the organisation or the people who are moaning.
rune
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