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21-08-2011, 11:21 PM
Originally Posted by Moon's Mum View Post
We have progress We had two horrible, stressful agilty lessons previously, in one where he snapped at yhe new dog trainer. One class we missed due to the staffie through the fence/broken finger incident. One was cancelled due to my trainer going into hospital. So two bad lessons, two missed lessons, i was in no frame of mind to return. I was ready to quit. I was stressed, Cain was stressed and i was sure wed be ostracised by the other owners after his behaviour in the last class. But my dog trainer convinced me to try again so i dragged us over there and....we actually had a great class.

I put in down to 1) Putting his DAP collar back on. The 8 very shaky weeks we have had coincide with his collar removal trial and I am now convinced that he is not yet ready to cope without it. I think we gave it long enough to see that it does affect him, he doesn't need for day to day life but when he is stressed, his threadhold is significantly lower with out it. 2) I have a wonderful caring dog trainer who completely re-jigged the class structure to help Cain.

He let his two assistants run the rest of the group (we were behind any way having missed a few sessions) and he gave me and Cain a 1:1 class but in a group setting. We did some work, took a break for a wind down stroll and some Ttouch, then more work, another break etc. It worked well as we still want to encourage Cain to cope around other dogs, but the focus was keeping him calm and everything positive.

One of the other owners saw he was wearing a Ttouch body wrap and talked to me about if it was helping, so that made ne feel better that we aren't total outcasts One man who knows us from training class (he's in the class above) came over to say hello. I lost my nerve and wouldn't let him touch Cain even though Cain does sort of know him and looked like he wanted to approach. As he walked off, I told myself to stop being such a baby as Cain already knew him, there was no reason to think he'd react! I muzzled Cain for my own peace of mind, called Mark back and let Cain approach. Cain went over to say hello. He did once jump up but we both agreed it wasn't aggressive as he didn't growl, bark or raise his hackles. I pulled him back down and then he stood there nicely while he got petted. It's been a while since I let someone touch him

Class was good. We moved some of the equipment a little way off so he could still see the other dogs but was not over his threshold. He practises the equipment he'd already tried like hurdles, solid tunnel, weaves and A frame. He also did loads of new stuff like the dog walk, the tyre jump, the material tunnel and the see saw. He was amazing and did it all happily, I thought he might freak out at the see saw but he didn't He's got to learn a bit of self control when coming off of the dog walk though, gravity takes over

He even went off lead it was all very carefully done with eyes everywhere, but it was like line him up, unclip lead, run and jump, treat and lead back on. But he was very focused. He even did two jumps in a row off lead. And the dog walk followed by the A frame off lead. Very pleased He only lunged twice, both times at a tied up collie and Dave said it looked excitable rather than aggressive. This is a huge improvement as last time he was lunging at EVERYTHING and I lost count of how many times he did it. He was watching the other dogs running around quite calmly.

Was it the Ttouch? Was it the collar? Was it the new lesson management? Or a combination of all three? I don't know, but this was the first agility class I've come out of that I feel that we both actually enjoyed he was very drooly at the beginning, visibly a bit stressed, but looked so relaxed by the end of it. I think Cain did amazingly well, kept so calm and focused, he worked so hard and now he's sleeping like a log
Thats fantastic i'm so pleased that you had such a positive class Obviously the combination of things are working

Originally Posted by Kerryowner View Post
Good on you Amanda and Cain-sounds much better.

I managed to brush FOUR of Izzy's teeth tonight before she growled!

I decided yesterday I had to give her a brush before we went to the dog show so I muzzled her and brushed her and she would deffo have bitten me had it not been for the muzzle. I hadn't given her a proper brush for over 2 weeks. Fortunately she has a different coat type to Parker as I dread to think what he would look like had I not groomed him properly for 2 weeks! I do him thoroughly every other day.
I'm sure you'll be able to get her used to be groomed soon enough

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So proud of my kismet... Due to the social dog walks being banned from my local woods and moving some distance away, we have not been able to attend them, we have been avoiding other dogs on walks for the most part...

Yesterday we decided to go for a walk in a field I have been avoiding for a while because of the number if other dogs we used to meet. I knew kismet had not had much socialisation recently so I made sure she was wearing her muzzle, we walked as calmly and with as loose a lead as possible as we were approached by dog after off lead dog, she was fantastic. A little stiff and nervous at first, but she watched pharaoh greet the dogs politely and she began to relax.

I met a lady with her two lurchers we knew from our old agility group and after kismet had politely greeted and played a little with her dogs, we started to catch up... Soon we were joined by another dog walker and her three jack russells, then a man and his whippet... At one point I looked round and realised kismet was relaxed and sniffing about surrounded by dogs, not the least stressed!

Then today we went to the woods and again she was perfect, walking past other dogs, greeting a few polite doggies and just walking like a normal dog... Albeit a muzzled long lined normal dog, but never the less walks have become so much less stressed and so much more enjoyable!

I am seriously considering allowing my friend to bring her new rescue foster around for a playdate... Soon... a few more baby steps yet, but soon
Thats brilliant that she is becoming so relaxed around other dogs, sounds like a some great walks
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22-08-2011, 07:30 AM
Awwww, Izzy doesn't sound like she's into the whole personal hygiene thing very much I know you'll get there though, four teeth is a pretty good start.

And what brilliant news about Kismet. I love those moments when you turn around and suddenly realise the situation that they are in and how well they are coping. You should be really proud of her
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22-08-2011, 12:55 PM
Sounds like everyone has been doing great at the moment

KerryOwner - That's great Izzy is getting good at having her teeth brushed - maybe you can come here and tell Kestral eye drops aren't too bad!!

Moon's Mum - Sounds like you have been making fantastic progress with Cain recently - especially the walk where drunken people shouted at him, and he didn't respond - as well as the progress over the agility classes.

Maypye - Don't know much of Kismet's story but it sounds like he has come on loads - having a doggy playdate in the park must have been great to watch.

Kestral has been doing really well recently. On walks she hasn't barked for ages (except times like when a bike almost cycled in to the back of her - but even that was surprised bark rather than the usual high intensity ones).

Over the last coupls of days I have been letting her off the line again - she has been fantastic - no barking at all and looking much more at ease round people. Even some circumstances when I expectged her to bark, like when we walked very close to 2 men on a bench and when golfers came wheeling their clubs - she was fantastic. I might even go as far to say she is considering being friendly !!

Went to the training class that was recommended by Moon's mum. She barked outside when she was on the lead (she is less confortable on lead) at people and was looking really nerovus, but once in there calmed down, and was walking up to people looking at their treats! At one part of the session where everyone was meant to be touching eachothers dogs, Kestral was even looking to be stroked
Dave said she's not that bad and reiterated to me, that as a vocal breed, its just how she makes herself feel comfortable - but she let him handle her without looking nervous which was fantastic so we'll keep that up as it's great socialisation.
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22-08-2011, 02:08 PM
Oh I'm glad it went well Cain isn't great with strangers but he utterly adores Dave It was Dave at the agility class who managed to find a way to turn it into a success for Cain. Sounds like she did great, especially when she realised there were treats in offer let us know how she gets on in the future.
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22-08-2011, 03:25 PM
I have a acheved a high five and getting their with roll over!!

So proud of my Millie it takes her ages to learn anything and its nice to see her achieve the things im teaching her.

Now all we need to achieve is a nice walk and get her used to other dogs we have met a springer she really liked and was trying to play with an older cocker spaniel but it was ignoring her so she lost interest the owner also had a weimeraner with them and she was very interested in him but kept her distance, met a boxer with the same reaction she is slowly comming out of her shell.
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22-08-2011, 04:57 PM
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Oh I'm glad it went well Cain isn't great with strangers but he utterly adores Dave It was Dave at the agility class who managed to find a way to turn it into a success for Cain. Sounds like she did great, especially when she realised there were treats in offer let us know how she gets on in the future.
That's great Cain likes him too! When I saw him I thought Kestral might be scared but he just took the lead, and he offered her some food which she gobbled so it went pretty well Will keep it up and keep you all updated!

Just out of interest, I used to do agility with Kestral, but stopped when my agility teacher scared her by pushing/dragging her up the see-saw What are Dave's classes like, and where are they held?

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I have a acheved a high five and getting their with roll over!!

So proud of my Millie it takes her ages to learn anything and its nice to see her achieve the things im teaching her.

Now all we need to achieve is a nice walk and get her used to other dogs we have met a springer she really liked and was trying to play with an older cocker spaniel but it was ignoring her so she lost interest the owner also had a weimeraner with them and she was very interested in him but kept her distance, met a boxer with the same reaction she is slowly comming out of her shell.
Well done, learning new tricks is always fun, and thats good shes coming out her shell and making new friends
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22-08-2011, 06:09 PM
The classes are held in Ham, close to Richmond Park, have a look on their website. The classes are run much the same as the training classes, all reward based and positive. The beginner course is limited to 8 places with 3 trainers, the intermediate and advanced classes are on a drop in basis. I've never seen a dog forced over a piece of equipment, only encouraged. Cain did the see saw for the first time this week. Dave held on end so that it didn't move, I walked Cain up to the tipping point, told him to wait and held him tight so he couldn't fall off then Dave slowly lowered it to the ground. Dave said it was vital that Cain didn't fall off it have a bad experience. He went over it a few more times letting it progressively drop a little faster each time. Still a work in progress but Cain seemed happy with it. We had a difficult first few classes (due to Cain's issues and him getting stressed, nothing to do with the class structure) so this week Dave adapted it especially for Cain to help him cope and we had a very enjoyable class

He likes to do a free trial run with new owners, so you can see if you like it and to see if the dog wants to do it. If you ask Dave I'm sure you could turn up and have a go before booking in for anything
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24-08-2011, 09:32 AM
Thanks Moon's Mum!
Dragging a nervous dog over equipment just seems stupid to me Will look in to it, and maybe chat to him at our next class.
Good luck with Cain's agility, sounds like Dave has been very helpful to you, and I'm sure its great for Cain Maybe even see you there one day!!
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27-08-2011, 01:15 PM
Had a good socialisation class today he ran around with several dogs, although he didn't play he did keep himself to himself pretty much. He got into one small scrap when another dog reacted to him to much and Cain retaliated, but it was all noise and bluster and over quickly. He didnt get it right all of the time, he tried to entice a dalmation to play by bombing over the field and skidding into a play bow just inches from its face unsurprisingly the dalmation was too intimidate to play! Silly boy. Otherwise he did very well, spending half the time comfortable enough to ignore the other dogs and feast on horse poo niiiiiiiice. It amazing the difference in him with his DAP collar back on, he just isn't ready to cope without it yet. Fingers crossed for another good agility class tomorrow, I'm actually looking forward to it this week!
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27-08-2011, 01:26 PM
I had a first today for Ben and Tai walking along the canal. A barge had passed us and the two men on board were talking about my boys. They were both off the lead as we could see that there no-one ahead for at least a quarter of a mile, and no-one behind us, so I thought I would show off! I called both dogs, they came immediately. I then walked on up the towpath with one on one side of me, one on the other. I have never tried to walk with Ben off lead to heel with Tai present, so I really didn't think I would achieve much, but he was brilliant. Both dogs stayed to heel, and when one started to inch ahead, a quick verbal correction brought him back immediately. The men on the barge were very impressed and I have to say so was I. They even ignored a moorhen on the water and kept walking nicely to heel, I was well chuffed with the pair of them.
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