Mate its not so much the issue of organisation although my organisation does likely leave something to be desired
Its where I intend to store what if memory serves works out at around 200kg per month of the stuff, even breaking it up bi-weekly I'd be stuffed. Although I do feed a high end kibble so the raw diet would come in cheaper, perhaps I should see this money as offsetting the cost of building an outhouse

I've got 3 freezers on the go and they're usually pretty full, but you can feed tinned fish and chicken drumsticks, quarters, wings etc all of which can be bought at the supermarket as a starter then move on to other things like minces, tripe, heart, Turkey wings etc that usually have to be sourced from an online specialist raw food company. Butchers will often give you bones and chicken carcasses. You've got a company called Landywoods in your area that delivers.

As a final point from a health standpoint, IMO there are other very harmful things many dog owners do each day. Even raw feeders. These include smoking around our pets (an extremely bad one many people ignore), spraying aerosols containing all kinds of CFC's and other dangerous chemicals in our homes all the time, putting strange chemicals in the lawns our dogs walk on, washing our homes and their dishes with harmful and harsh soaps (washing them with these can be bad, too) and many others. Feeding a good kibble... Or even whatever keeps your dog healthy is not as bad as some of those IMO.

Yeah I know Landys one of my puppy homes uses them and indeed her dog has done well on raw, not the physical equal of my kibble fed keeper but that was a pet quality dog so thats neither here nor there. I'm sure he enjoys his meaty bones more than his brother enjoys his pelletized offerings anyway. One or two others have taken the plunge also. I did go as far as to plot out the whole prey model diet for them which is probably still jotted down somewhere but the stumbling block was still simply where the hell to put this mass of food. Unfortunately my garage is entirely my dedicated workspace, if it wasn't for that I'd be laughing.
No doubt if I was hell bent on making it happen I could do so, I might try to sort something out to trial it at least with two younger dogs in the future.

What we can extract from all this I suppose is that I've made a practical decision on behalf of myself rather than on behalf of the hounds and looked to find the middle ground just by feeding the best food I can within the boundaries of that decision. I think this would probably be true for a lot of folk in terms of "why NOT feed raw".

At last a sensible post here !

Your right, this thread is supposed to be for people to state why they dont feed !

The ramblings of one poster and the pontification of another do not belong here. Go pontificate elsewhere!!!

Tawneywolf: I remember when we first met you at that dog show in Blackpool? You had Tawney then, and we had Hal. We had just not long previously put him onto the BARF diet because he had a prolapsed anus, and Mike told you to run your fingers through Tawney's coat and then through Hal's and feel the difference! You remarked on the lack of doggy smell in Hal's coat, you were amazed I remember, and from that day never looked back!

We know that our type of dogs in particular can really not be fed on anything other than raw, so we are of course a bit biased, but there is no doubt in my mind whatsoever that raw feeding is the best for all dogs. that doesn't mean to say that all dogs fed on commercial food are unhealthy, of course that is not the case, but like you I prefer to feed a healthy natural diet rather than the equivalent of Macdonalds!

Your pups are the healthiest I have ever seen, and very rarely if ever do you have health problems with your dogs, whether the adults you have permanently or the pups you breed and sell.

I good example I would think of the proof of the pudding being in the eating!

Nobody denied that her dogs are healthy, she said they are and I believe her. It's just that it irks me when people front their snobbery and call dog food "muck" and say they have no idea why people feed it. If you truly are that clueless as to why people feed dog food to their dogs, then I feel sorry for you.

Except she isn't that clueless and she said that just to talk down on non raw feeders, which as others have said... and I agree... does not belong on this thread. Dislike feeding dog food all you want, but IMO you should keep condescending statements and sarcasm out of your statements.

It does not strengthen them, and it's the reason so many people feel that many raw feeders not only shove their feeding in your face as something you should be doing no matter what, but also think themselves as automatically better owners, as well.

Sorry, we all know that kibble feeders can be just as great of dog owners (or better) and their dogs can be just as healthy (or healthier). Why, I can think of a person right now who is a kibble feeder and her dog is perfectly healthy and a show dog at Crufts. The snobbery really needs to go... that's all I'm saying.

Why not feed raw?

When I had a cheap reliable source of chicken frames I fed raw . . . and picked up raw for other dog people, and fed the dogs in my boarding kennel raw. My source sold 10 kg bags. I averaged around 20 to 25 bags a week. My dogs loved it. But they got fat. Sooooo much fat on modern chicken carcasses, and it's hard to fine tune quantities when you feed raw. I'm a softie and tend to err on the side of too much. The processing plant was nearby. I was paying less than 12 cents a pound for carcasses.

Now, having moved a couple times, I have fewer dogs and can't find a decent, reliable source of raw for less than $1.00/lb. I find kibble is a lot less fuss. The dogs still get occasional bones or turkey necks or whatever, just to say "I love you". But their weight is under much better control with the commercial diet and it sure is easy. Haven't noticed any health problems, though their coats are better if I feed them a dry food with a fish meal base.

I reallllllly wish "pet lovers" could get a job at a rendering plant to see the disgusting crap they put into pet food.
I strongly believe that anyone who has seen what I have seen would never ever again feed their dog or cat this crap because in the true sense of the word it is crap, quite literally in some instances genuine bovine, equine, porcine and/or avian EXCREMENT.
If most people could see what I feed my dogs they would jealous and/or grossed out. I would love to post a pic I took of 7 week old puppies "wolfing" down some fish innards that consisted of about 50% fish eggs.
I say jealous because it is higher in healthy oils, fats&acids, proteins&acids and minerals, fish heads that are very high in vitamins&minerals, fats&oils, all healthier than what most of us poor humans can even afford to eat.
I say grossed out because of our inherently weak ego.
"EEEEEEeewwww! guts!!!"
Where I live there are idiots that have brought in Ag(agricultural)animals that carried ad Cow Disease/BSE/Brain Rotting Diseases. Because these idiots thought they were getting a deal on the animals we now have this disease in deer and elk. And not unlike the Bovine Tuberculosis(which some other idiot introduced here back then) in the 50's and 60's it(BSE) is wreaking havoc with the endemic species. Thus far we, that live off the land, have not had any problems in the human populations and I am happy to say that I have not noticed any symptoms in my my K9 running partners. When/if I do see symptoms I have made up my mind that charges will be brought down on any and all that are directly and/or indirectly responsible for this madness, this abomination this grossly disrespectful act of selfishness, this environmental terrorism.
That said, many of my dogs had shown many symptoms brought on by eating the garbage that the rendering plants told me"Don't worry. It's all cooked to higher standards than the human food industry." and here's silly little innocent, trusting, gullible me believing that toxins, diseases, antibiotics, growth(and other injectable)hormones, hair, feathers, beaks, cartilage, hooves, partially digested hay, grass, straw, grains and other feeds and the entire entrail system as well as the heart,liver, kidneys and lungs and all their parasitic pests can have all the "bad stuff cooked out of them". To believe what I was told ypeople who are more in love with a few $$ on their payroll than they are with their very own lives..... I admit I must've been utterly mad. or as I said completely gullable, childishly trusting....

Thank you very much but I'll stick to raw(traditionally gathered,,,easily digested,,,hormone and antibiotic free ORGANIC fish, wawaskaysi, amisk, wahchusk, moossooss, wapati, beef, pork, niska, wapoos, sisip, chicken, wiinishkw, turkey, and/or whatever else I can harvest,gather,shoot,trap,)meats I can feed to my canine carnivorous.

My dogs are fed home cooked. They also have raw bones, chicken wings, feet or necks 3 or 4 times during the week. The only time you'll find kibble in my house is in winter when I buy a 2.5 kg bag in case we have deep snow and can't get to the nearest supermarket some 12 miles away.

Whatever other people chose to feed their dogs is none of my business. I've fed home cooked to numerous dogs over the past 35 years and I've always had healthy happy dogs which is all that really matters.