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Location: Dogsey and Worcestershire
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22-02-2011, 01:06 PM
Originally Posted by Adam Palmer 
No I don't train for the whole 4 hours, I give plenty of rest for latent learning.
If you just youtube ''e collar working level test'' you find plenty of videos.
If you youtube ''e collar working level human test'' you will also find videos.
I don't see the point in doing a vid thats already been done lol.
Adam
Did you note this post by Admin..
Originally Posted by Azz
Yes. And if Adam posts on his behalf, or things he's said - his account will be banned too. Take that as a final warning Adam.
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22-02-2011, 01:23 PM
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22-02-2011, 01:26 PM
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22-02-2011, 02:17 PM
Originally Posted by Adam Palmer
I'm simply suggesting youtube links.
I'm not putting them up I'm just saying what you can search.
Adam
You've been given a 3 day ban as a final warning.
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22-02-2011, 02:35 PM
Originally Posted by Adam Palmer
At higher levels its just greater discomfort tbh.
Making something that hurts is going to be counter productive to training anyway as the dog will slow down its learning.
Adam
right so the blokes ive seen cringing and screaming in pain, were just uncomfortable, whatever!!
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22-02-2011, 02:56 PM
Originally Posted by Adam Palmer
At higher levels its just greater discomfort tbh.
Making something that hurts is going to be counter productive to training anyway as the dog will slow down its learning.
Adam
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22-02-2011, 03:11 PM
Something painful is very uncomfortable. However, discomfort sounds less severe than pain even though very often the descriptions very often overlap and are descriptive of the same state.
Adam, I've tried e-collars on myself and, for me, they range from uncomfortable to painful - neither sensation could be described as a mild tingle, a flea bite. The first sensation (first feeling of the collar being used on my arm) was akin to a static shock from a car door. The latter was very, very uncomfortable. I would not want to inflict either sensation on a poor animal to train it.
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