Flattery is going to get you everywhere Pitbull Victim, no one is asking you to like them, but don't disrespect the fact others don't mind the breed or take a different view, people don't have to agree with you and you don't have to agree with them , but if you go around calling people 'jerks' that reflects back on you and make you look foolish and unable to have a discussion without throwing insults around.
As for people's IQ's I would say those who are unable to discuss things respectfully and have to resort to name calling tend to have lower IQ's.

The only problem with your thoughtless argument is that these aformentioned jerks allow their killing machines to to attack, kill and maim innocent members of the general public. Because of Pitbull owners and their crass stupidity, many people now only have photographs as the only memory of a Pitbull savaged loved one...

Any breed of dogs can be bred into aggression, the main problem for Pit Bulls is that for a while they were very popular with the criminal side of society, and were basically "mass-produced" along the aggressive bloodlines... had these breeders been responsible they would of course not have allowed aggressive dogs to mate....

However, there are still plenty of non-aggressive Pit Bull bloodlines around, bred by responsible breeders who keep a close check on which dogs are suitable to breed with.

So my answer is: No, not all Pit Bulls are dangerous, but irresponsible breeders are, and owners who encourage aggression are! I believe it is a good thing to put a stop to aggressive bloodlines, but to condemn all Pit Bulls is ridiculous!

Well I must admit Dogsey was getting a little quiet these days. At least the trolls are not all gone - yet.

As a child I was attacked by a horse. I don't like horses any more. Do I believe horses are all dangerous? Course not. That would be shortsighted and foolish. If you look at the recent incidents involving pitbull 'types' you will see that it's usually a family member's dog involved, and that the owner is usually on drugs and that the smacked up granny thought the dog, which had been trained to be aggressive would be ok to play with the two year old. You need to look at the whole picture before you condemn a whole breed.

To categorise all owners of a specific breed or animal, is making things black and white unfortunately the world works for in shades of grey.
I understand you don't like pitbulls, and may even be fearful of them.
As with owners of any sort (including children) there is bad in all ownership, so delete all the pit bulls and you are still going to see a rise in other breeds that takes their place, as people who intend on irresponsible dog ownership will still exist.
You may feel it solves a problem, it won't, as with any breed, owners who find reputable breeders who breed for a good nature, not instable natured dogs, and owners prepared to have a dog with many issues that need more attention to specific training and as with some other breeds would require much more socialisation and knowledge of the breed and specific requirements.
But you forget to look at the other end of the lead, and think you would be more suited to starting a new thread in regards to owners you feel are responsible in poor dog ownership and your problem with them. As you do seem to class the owners of the breed a certain type also.
Pitbulls are not the only dogs that have killed humans, you may think it fixes everything but sorry all dogs have teeth and larger breeds can do a lot more damage, that being said my large breed dog is safer than the dog I obtained as a stray, even if his behaviour has altered greatly, so hoohar all you like about pit bulls, you do nothing for the anti pit bull side except make them look silly, as you are being rather childish about it all.
This is a discussion it is not going to change laws, it is to discuss relevant facts and as much as I am sure you think your attempts of degrading remarks are relevant , it is only reflecting how low your IQ actually is, and doubt other anti pit bull people would even what you on their side.
I trolls

Is this guy for real???? Following his logic I would hazard a guess that every single breed alive has bitten someone at some point. Therefore all dogs are dangerous and we should wipe out the entire canine species. Give me strength!!

Yep. All dogs should be considered evil then. And we should get rid of them all. Cats too. I know people who have been attacked, scratched and bitten by them. I know people who have had their fingers mauled by birds. See ya birds! Kill 'em all!

And that's not even including anything about the worst species of all: the HUMAN animal.

And btw, I am not a "pit bull apologist." There's nothing to apologize for. The pit bulls I know are awesome dogs. Even the ones I know with idiot owners are friendly.

Trolls are silly.

I don`t think it`s a troll because it`s not even pretending to be a dog lover. And the spelling`s too good.
I think it`s someone whose copy of the Daily Mail has gone missing and is having to find another outlet.

PV what you don't seem to understand, despite repeatedly being told and it being stated dozens of times throughout this thread is that no one is in any way defending those kind of owners. Everyone on here would agree that the biggest problems any breed has, and in particular in this case, pitbulls have, are idiot owners. Despite accusing others of "thoughtless arguments" and calling us "jerks" you seem to be the one displaying a lack of intelligence when your arguments can be taken apart as saying that any animal capable of killing or maiming should not be allowed - that includes a rather staggering proportion of the animal kingdom as well as humans and many inanimate objects too. Cars kill many humans every year - quick, ban them! The whole point, which you would see if you actually took the time to read an understand the posts on here, is that the problem is the owners - not the object, or breed in this case.

The thing I do find amusing is whenever any counter argument to your head in the sand approach, differs from your narrow minded apology for the breed, out comes the old chestnut: "He must be a Troll." My God you are a sad bunch of intellectual bankrupts.
I have read many posts on this subject on Dogsey, and without a shadow of a doubt the bad Pitbull owners are not conspicuous by their absense. No wonder the breed get's such a bad press.