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Location: Stockton on Tees
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Originally Posted by
Mother*ship
To start off with I think the trouble with most of you Dogsey members that get hassled by the god botherers is that you are too nice and well brought up!
If they knock on your door or try to engage you in the street just say you're not interested and close the door or turn away! That is my policy and it works equally well for salespeople, chuggers and the like. I really must get one of those signs that says "no callers without an appointment."
Lol, guilty.
Now to get to the religious question...For every atheist bus you'll see 100's of god/Jesus posters so I really don't think we want to get into the who's ramming which message home argument.
I was brought up in the Roman Catholic Church went to a RC Primary and a RC Convent Secondary, the good education I received enabled me to use my critical brain to reject the dogma I was being pumped with and I am now a born-again atheist!
Its such a shame that so many still believe the fairy tale they're given as fact, even when confronted by the multitude of evidence to the contrary.
So to the question of the Pope being 'just a man', well of course to most RC's he's much more than that, he is a hugely influential, powerful figure who by virtue of his office is believed to be infallible. And this is the man who as a Cardinal colluded in the hushing up of so many cases of child abuse to protect the Church allowing many of the abusers to go on and commit more crimes! What about protecting the victims? But there you are, one of my many, many reasons for leaving the church.
Have to say I am a bit ambivalent about this issue, as you can see despite my parents and my churches best efforts I saw the light and don't believe in their imaginary friend anymore. AshMan you and I
were given a choice, unfortunately many children aren't as the price for choosing not to believe would be the loss of their families and communities.
Oh no, you can't say he's imaginary, that's not pc.
I very strongly believe that religion has no place in schools except as a matter for study. Children should learn about all the different religions they should not have any single one spouted at them as the "truth". I was horrified to see Muslim girls being told creationism was an acceptable alternative theory to evolution!!!
I'm not going to even go there, its annoying me just thinking about it. It not an acceptable alternative, its shocks me that in this day and age, people still buy into the fantasy. People have long since (I think) stopped believing in fire breathing flying reptiles, but they believe a book that says some person was born from a virgin...wtf.
And don't get many started on the fact that schools that my taxes fund are allowed to discriminate against my children on the grounds of my atheism. Please how is that a fair system???
It isn't, but its religion, therefor they can get away with it. Can you imagine the outcry if a school said, 'no sorry, we only allow atheists in here.' I'm not a fan of faith schools at all anyway. Imo, its a way for parents to try and ensure that their kids learn what they want them to believe. After all, as a faith school they can teach whatever the hell they please, they get inspected by one of their own, not biassed at all obviously.
Personally I found r.e to be one of the most borring subjects I had to put up with in school. Mainly because it was basicly all about the 3 most popular ones, which I care little for. I find multi deity religions to be more interesting, I just think that whoever created monotheism was either lazy, or lacked imagination...saying that, wasn't one of the first recorded example of such a belief system found in ancient Egypt, created by one of the pharaoh's Akhenaten (father of tutankhamun) I believe. Quite an interesting man, though his attempt at change failed.