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Location: Ireland
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11-09-2007, 09:14 AM
Now - if you have a Grand Champion then get it neutered, you can start all over again for the Premier title, so a young neutered, untitled cat may be competing against an older, recently neutered cat that is - or by now "was" - a Grand Champion!
HOWEVER - if you look at Champ show results and critiques for cat shows, you would be surprised just how many CCs/P?? (can't remember the premier version) are withheld. Cat show entries are small, similar to many breeds of dog in Ireland, so in order not to make anything "automatic" or a walkover, there is much more withholding if the animal does not possess sufficient merit, so you really cannot have one - the "easier" option - without the other - you don't necessarily get it by being the only one there.
By the way, I was told by an Australian exhibitor that you can get all your tickets under the same judge in Australia for dogs, so it's simply a case of following the favoured one around the Country - chequebook titles IMO!!!
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Location: Co. Durham, UK
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11-09-2007, 10:32 PM
Originally Posted by Mahooli 
Well in my breed the owner not only went for the breed record for the size but also for the most CC's in poodles all sizes. As the rumour is that this dog is erm cosmetically enhanced but their owner is a member of the KC nothing seems to have been done about that!
Becky
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Originally Posted by megan57collies
It's interesting we were talking about this at Richmond at the weekend and most of the people involved had many dogs with champion status. The general conscensus was they were more than happy to have another class and most of them agreed where there had been times where one dog held a lot of dogs back from gaining their title.
What was proposed is that champions have something to aim for like in other countries Australia etc. where champions compete to become grand champions. Once a dog has become a champion where does it go from there?
Well in the meantime I will continue to take my dog out, you either live with the faciness, the competition and hope your dog is good enough to get past it all, or you find something else to do. All I know is if I manage to get my boys title it will be because he's good enough. Hes' done more than I ever hoped for so anything else is a bonus.
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Location: Rugby, UK
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12-09-2007, 08:19 AM
Originally Posted by surannon
But you can say that about anything! "Oh I think a dog with more than 3 first prizes should be in a class other than puppy or junior because my dog regularly gets second to it and deserves his Junior Warrent"
If a dog is good enough it'll get made up - simple really.I do agree that judges should be willing to withhold though - when you're stood in the ring and reading the words on those cards it really does bring it all into perspective - 'of such outstanding merit' really should mean just that.
Debs
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