I've seen the action, and it's not usually a kick as such (by the time it is seen on tv) - however each dog sure avoids it and usually cringes submissively indicating that the dog has already been made aware of how hard his kick could be behind the scenes.
My dog for instance would not care if I raised my leg near to her, nor if i pushed her...nor I expect would most other people's if they've not been abused etc...

It's just one of the things about his show that really annoys me. Ie the dogs have been pre conditioned to a leg movement that either hurts or that they associate with something that does...

Speaking as a trainer, I think all of us are always learning no matter how long you've been training.

The guys at dog borstal, victoria stillwell, cesar millan, jan fennel et al, are all at the mercy of the tv producers who want to condense hours of work into a 5 minute sound bite.

None of the multitude of programmes gives you the insight into the full training and it never provides you with all the tools you need to cure your own problems properly, this is never down to the trainer, but the production team.

All good trainers will tell you that advice should be individual to you and your dog and influenced by how you both learn and what you both feel comfortable doing. There are supporters and critics for all trainers - whether on tv or not! As long as the methods are not cruel or cause pain and suffering (in which case they should be banned) -everyone will always have their own preference.

Going back to the original point - overall I think his methods encourage people to have a healthy well fed happy dog that can interact sensibly and politely with people and other dogs which is something we should all aim for, but there have been particular cases for which his 'remedies' have raised some eyebrows.

I would say that until you have tried to solve these cases yourself you cannot know how you would approach such behaviour and the likelyhood is that he has exhausted many less forceful methods before employing these methods, but this would be the 'uniteresting' introduction that ended up on the cutting room floor.

Cesar has a lot to offer in the way of advise for general dog-ownership:
exercise, discipline, affection - all important factors to having a well balanced dog. how many of you have missed a days full exercise of your high energy dog and then spent the first half of the next walk regretting that, usually with aching shoulders!

I have now exhausted myself and will get quietly down off my soap box, quit preaching and hopefully avoid a hail of arrows from any of you who disagree with me lol!!

I'd guess that I've watched about 20-30 of his shows and I've seen him give good advice on 1 occasion so no I don't think he's improved. What I will say is he hasn't got worse, simply because it's impossible.

I have never seen the dogs he's dealing with cringing submissively when corrected by him in this manner. In fact I am astounded by your claims, I shall certainly watch much closer in future.

If you watch with the sound off, and just watch the dogs, I find it helpful to get a clearer picture He has a very calming voice, whatever he's in the middle of.

This is a good link which explains why many of us feel the way we do...

http://www.4pawsu.com/cesarfans.htm

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Well I voted No.

But then I hardly watch him, but because my FS was watching it I did the other day and have to say I cringed at the way he treated the Pitbull.

Whilst I could see why the dog was muzzled....for the protection of people......I do not like to see a dog that puts his tails right underneath it's belly when someone approaches, and that is what this dog did when CM approached. Also I am not really in favour of the slide kick that was being used. But then call me mad.....I have never raised a hand or foot to any dog I have owned, and hopefully would never do so.

BINGO! People often say he hits/kicks dogs and chokes them with the slip leads or some BS etc.

I'd expect a lot of trainers or behaviourists to attack his methods since his success, so no suprise there.

People say it because he does it, if you think otherwise you must be watching a different show to me.

Am I the only one who don't like this whole softly softly happyness and sunshine approach to dog training?

Did you hear that woman dog trainer say about traing through being rewarded or bribed with food to get results. Aposed to CM expecting it by being the leader.

I think most people forget to treat dogs as dogs, and not human.

I think that`s extremely arrogant. I assume you mean us (by most people?)