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27-07-2016, 10:41 PM
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I have been 32 or so km offshore, get a grip kid, I check NOAA before heading out http://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/marine/marine_map.htm

So yes I know.

LOL R U A Landlubber

Yes tail docking prevents injury, as does dewclaw removal
32 km offshore is not going into the mid-Atlantic - which is what you said you did when you saw these seals that somehow magically manage to live in the mid-Atlantic!

No, I am not a landlubber. I was actually Round Hayling Island Ladies Windsurfing Champion in 1983!! I have the plaque to prove it!!

I didn't ask you whether tail docking prevented injury, I asked you if it was still legal in the States?
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27-07-2016, 10:42 PM
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That is an absolute crock of s**t that docking tails does not hurt! I used to own a German Shorthaired Pointer called Lizzie - she was a Wittekind GSP and I bred 2 pedigree litters from her. To my deepest regret I allowed the vet to persuade me to dock the puppies - they screamed blue murder. Clearly, it is extremely painful - as anyone with half a brain would know without having to be told. If I chopped off your little finger with sharp scissors it would dang well hurt and you would yell the place down, as would I.

Is tail docking still legal in the States?
Sure is, just like it is still the standard in Germany

https://www.flickr.com/photos/136279...6944/lightbox/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/136279...8024/lightbox/
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27-07-2016, 10:43 PM
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Sure is, just like it is still the standard in Germany

https://www.flickr.com/photos/136279...6944/lightbox/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/136279...8024/lightbox/
Is tail docking legal for all breeds in the States?
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27-07-2016, 10:45 PM
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32 km offshore is not going into the mid-Atlantic - which is what you said you did when you saw these seals that somehow magically manage to live in the mid-Atlantic!

No, I am not a landlubber. I was actually Round Hayling Island Ladies Windsurfing Champion in 1983!! I have the plaque to prove it!!

I didn't ask you whether tail docking prevented injury, I asked you if it was still legal in the States?
OMFG mid Atlantic SEABOARD, or the middle between Maine and Florida.

God this is funny, and the seal photo that I posted was on a firkin beach.

LOL This is hysterical
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27-07-2016, 10:47 PM
Well, if you meant the mid-Atlantic seaboard then why did you not say that? There is a vast difference between the mid-Atlantic seaboard and the mid-Atlantic!

And I am still waiting to hear if it is legal to dock all dog breeds in the States.
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27-07-2016, 10:50 PM
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Is tail docking legal for all breeds in the States?
Don't know as there is only one breed that matters. https://www.flickr.com/photos/136279...8024/lightbox/
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27-07-2016, 10:52 PM
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Well, if you meant the mid-Atlantic seaboard then why did you not say that? There is a vast difference between the mid-Atlantic seaboard and the mid-Atlantic!

And I am still waiting to hear if it is legal to dock all dog breeds in the States.
Dude if you need to know U can Frikin Google it

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27-07-2016, 11:02 PM
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Don't know as there is only one breed that matters. https://www.flickr.com/photos/136279...8024/lightbox/
Then let me enlighten you. Your great country is falling short in comparison with civilised dog loving countries such as Great Britain. Only 9 States in the USA abide by the American Veterinary Association's guidelines that only certain types of dogs should be docked - pointers are one of these breeds. In the majority of states in the USA there is quite simply a bun fight it would seem, where vets seem to follow their own rules and do as they please.

Not so in good old Blighty. We have banned docking in this country outright, except for certain breeds such as GSPs for reasons which both you and I are fully aware of. I don't agree with it, for whatever reason, and I certainly know for a fact that docking is an extremely inhumane and very painful procedure for young puppies to go through, but there we are, that is the law in this country.

It would appear that the States are way behind us civilised countries with regard to canine welfare. O dearie me

On that note, tomorrow is another day as Scarlett said, so I will bid you goodnight.
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27-07-2016, 11:13 PM
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Then let me enlighten you. Your great country is falling short in comparison with civilised dog loving countries such as Great Britain. Only 9 States in the USA abide by the American Veterinary Association's guidelines that only certain types of dogs should be docked - pointers are one of these breeds. In the majority of states in the USA there is quite simply a bun fight it would seem, where vets seem to follow their own rules and do as they please.

Not so in good old Blighty. We have banned docking in this country outright, except for certain breeds such as GSPs for reasons which both you and I are fully aware of. I don't agree with it, for whatever reason, and I certainly know for a fact that docking is an extremely inhumane and very painful procedure for young puppies to go through, but there we are, that is the law in this country.

It would appear that the States are way behind us civilised countries with regard to canine welfare. O dearie me

On that note, tomorrow is another day as Scarlett said, so I will bid you goodnight.
And in your lovely Great Brittan it is still legal for Foxhounds to rip foxes in half whether there is a ban or not as it clearly still happens.

http://www.ifaw.org/united-kingdom/n...ccident-excuse

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27-07-2016, 11:18 PM
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Then let me enlighten you. Your great country is falling short in comparison with civilised dog loving countries such as Great Britain. Only 9 States in the USA abide by the American Veterinary Association's guidelines that only certain types of dogs should be docked - pointers are one of these breeds. In the majority of states in the USA there is quite simply a bun fight it would seem, where vets seem to follow their own rules and do as they please.

Not so in good old Blighty. We have banned docking in this country outright, except for certain breeds such as GSPs for reasons which both you and I are fully aware of. I don't agree with it, for whatever reason, and I certainly know for a fact that docking is an extremely inhumane and very painful procedure for young puppies to go through, but there we are, that is the law in this country.

It would appear that the States are way behind us civilised countries with regard to canine welfare. O dearie me

On that note, tomorrow is another day as Scarlett said, so I will bid you goodnight.
LOL you say it's illegal then you say it's not.

Get a grip, the GSP is the most active hunter ever bred and the tail often gets ripped if not docked. A wolf will hunt harder but has long hair to protect the tail
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