there is a website with pics of liver, blue and black and tan staffs on it but Ill be damned if I can find it right now
will post link once I can dig it out for you

is this a wind up for red nose day by any chance

here we go :

Blue http://www.staffordbullterriers.com/...-reg-blue1.php

liver/chocolate http://www.staffordbullterriers.com/...otos-liver.php

black and tan http://www.staffordbullterriers.com/...s-blacktan.php

to be honest the pic of the liver one isnt a very good example, it is more of a red nosed red, but you do get the darker liver staffs and they have a darker brown nose

As long as they have good soundness, health and temperament does it really matter what lines they are from?

no your right tom about good soundness, health and temperament , i was just interested to know the lines i didnt say it mattered .

Who knows then, it would be hard to say seeing as they are so uncommon.

Thanks for the pics CBT, that liver and white staff is gorgeous!

I wasnt talking about the DDA though, I was meaning when the bred standard was written (there would have been red nosed pits around in those days, albeit in the US but what is popular there usually catches on here too its only a matter of time )

i really dont think they cared that the apbt had some dogs with red noses when they made the breed standard .as there were pied , red and black brindle and all other colours at time included apart from blue i believe the same as apbt .

Maybe someone had the forsight to realise any dilution of the nose pigmentation is a possible health risk i.e. skin cancer