And how did you do this? It sounds like you took him out into the fields where there were far too many interesting things right away and expected to recall him off of that. It's like taking a kid and telling him to pass a calculus exam when he can't even do basic addition. You set him up for failure and, big surprise! He failed.

You HAVE to start practicing recall in deadly boring places and work your way up slowly.

Why would you allow the dog to chase game, then expect him not to chase sheep? Or at least stop when you tell him?

Whats wrong with a long line and road walking or using a bicycle attachment to exercise him?

OK thanks, at least that is now cleared up. But if you have time, it would be helpful to know what you did try (I am guessing you would have tried CM techniques in some way?) and other methods you may have been recommended.

Thanks for clearing that up, though; glad to hear neither dog has been pinned.

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lmao so now they have even taught him..deer are ok to chase and sheep are not? get real...poor confused dog

Not so simple. Ben was already coming back to him when he "zapped" him. Thank GOD the collar was not on or he would have been punishing him for actually coming to him.

How can you not even see the possible fall-out from this?

Yes...this! Dogs cannot generalize. They can't say "Oh those animals are wild, so I can chase them, while those white fuzzy ones belong to someone and I CAN'T chase them."

If you want the dog to stop chasing sheep or running off then you need to work with him to stop chasing ALL animals.

And if you're not willing to train a recall then LONG LINE.

Actually, no. There are a select handful of people who use them over here, but most of us hate them as much as people over there do. I don't know anyone who uses a shock collar on their dog.

But - I don't think it's legal to just allow dogs chase deer, Gnasher. It wasn't last time I looked (or am I dreaming ).

It's also very hard for a dog to return after he is on the chase (my dog will, if it comes to it). Apart from anything else, they often don't "hear" the command as their bodies and minds are so geared up to chasing.

You are asking a lot of him.... also if you allow him to chase deer, he will probably chase sheep...

Just my honest opinion.

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So you let a high prey driven dog chase deer then want him to come when recalled?! You can not be serious, you set your dog up to not come when recalled

Couldn't agree more, but nooooooooo that can't be a downfall of this device surely

what!! are you for real?? This is how the collar works, you silly sausage you. If you needed to keep zapping the poor animal, then you should stop using it. With Ben, it has worked exceedingly well, because he has only had to suffer any split second of pain TWICE.

You obviously do not know anything about my type of northern breed dogs. they have VERY high prey drives for starters, which is why most husky and mal breeders recommend that their dogs are never allowed off lead. We do not work our dogs in harness, and I happen to believe it to be very cruel to never allow dogs like mine to never run free.

The point I was making, but obviously far too obtusely for you to get, was that Ben's recall is now far better than it was. 2 weeks ago, he would have kept on chasing and chasing the deer until he either gave up, caught the deer or the deer escaped. But he chose, on his own accord, WITHOUT being buzzed or zapped, to return to his master because his master was calling him.

This is exactly what we wanted to achieve. Simples, isn't it.