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ali2you
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11-03-2010, 05:30 PM
Sorry didn't mean to say his b12 was low I meant to say that it said that he was deficient of b12.
I don't think much of my chances of getting a copy of the results if they won't let me have his history
Its really been the last few weeks that I have taken it upon myself to do some research as I was becoming more and more frustrated that they had done the gut biopsy which was supposed to be the clincher on what was going on and still they seemed to be guessing! But I'm no vet and at the end of the day I was in no position to make any diagnoses crikey that would just be madness! All I could keep doing was put forward stuff that I had read and if the vet says another thing then I 'had' to go with him. It was only last week when they said that they had hit the final straw and that steroids were the only answer and way forward that I finally said enough was enough I want my dog referred. Putting such a young dog on possibly life long steroids just didn't sit comfortable with me it felt like they were just putting a sticking plaster over the problem hoping it would all go away. Besides this the long term effects of steroids can be devastating to a dog!
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11-03-2010, 06:24 PM
No, sorry, my mistake, coz when you said your vet said it was very low, I thought he had meant the tli count from an epi test. Has he not done an epi test yet then??? They can't do this in house it has to be sent away and will cost you something in the region of 100 quid, but of course, the specialist is the man to ask about that one first!! I don't think you can do a check on the B12 in the body can you?? How would that show up then on a blood test maybe?

Last year when both my dogs had profuse yellow diarrhea, I took the trouble to ask one of the vets what this yellow was all about, because of course, my previous dog with the epi and subsequent SIBO attacks would always manifest itself with the yellow stuff. She explained to me, that when there is an overproduction of bad bacterial in the gut (i.e. severe intestinal bacteria overgrowth - SIBO!) it always manifests itself by producing the yellow, that's how they know what it is, and although injections of Vit B12 can help sometimes, I suppose it all depends on the route of the cause doesn't it, which sadly, in your case, you haven't got to yet! Let's hope the specialist does, which I'm sure he will.

I know steroids are not a good thing, BUT, one thing I can tell you is, my old boy has lived on them his entire life, either a weekly (yes weekly before I got him at 5 yrs of age!!!) jab plus the pills plus ab's forhis skin, and although when I rescued him at the age of 5, I have only ever managed to go max of 6 months without them, and then for the past two years he has been on one small dose a day, the vet said we're killing him off slowly of course, because they have affected his live in the past, but we have no option, he's nearly 12 years old and it's all quality of life as far as I'm concerned, be it a shorter one, but he's going on stronger than he has ever been before, so whilst you say what you say about them, and I would have said the same, sometimes there is no option.

Now I seem to remember reading somewhere, there is some Act, that if it's on their computer, and it's your dog, then you can have them (the notes I mean!) I know this because my vet receptionist refused to give me the vaccination details of my puppy's jabs a year ago, and the card hadn't been completed at that time, so I checked up on it, I rang her back and stated that she HAD to give them to me because they were on my dog's details on their puter, so she did!!!! Check up on that, I'm sure, by rights, we CAN, obtain the notes! You might have to pay for the priveledge, but if it puts your mind at rest, or at the least you can put some sort of order in your chaos then persue it with them.

Please keep us informed, I for one will be very interested in what your specialist has to say! Good luck, you can only do what you can do, and sometimes, some of these big wigs, actually like the fact that we have bothered to prepare ourselves with as much information as we can, just like you have done, whereas others, ....... well, you know!!!!
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11-03-2010, 06:41 PM
Hi Sorry I have been at work all day Rilexine is the brand name for the drug cephalexin, it is used to treat for Staphylococci, Streptococcus spp., Pneumococci, E. Coli, Klebslella spp, and Salmonella spp. It is used in dogs to treat cutaneous infections (pyoderma) , including skin fold pyoderma impetigo, folliculitis, furunculosis and cellulitis, also for urinary tract infections.

It is a total different drug to the Tetracyclines.

Alfe initially had it for skin infections but I changed to Anti-robe more expensive but no reactions from it.
Zandi had it initially for a pancreatic infection, the second time it was used for antibiotic cover after an operation but was stopped 2 days into treatment.
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12-03-2010, 10:46 AM
Hmmm I think I would be right there with you in questioning your vet. Cephalexin is typically for the treatment of skin infections and are not very effective at all in treating anything else. I have no idea why he would give them to you instead of tetrocycline except that Cephalexin is much cheaper than tetrocycline, but they are totally different classes of drugs. Cephalexin causes stomach irritation and I always caution clients to give the drug with food to prevent stomach issues and discontinue if the dog develops vomiting or diarrhea, which happens, pretty frequently. Having taken the drug myself before, I can say it does the same thing to humans.

I'm sorry your dog has gone through this. I'm glad you are with a specialist now. Sometimes you really have to wonder if these GPs got their degrees from a cracker jack box or what the deal is! I worked for a vet once who prescribed cephalexin for dogs with Upper Respiratory infections simply because it was cheaper (The owners weren't paying full price as these were rescue dogs from the shelter) I quit and reported him. Tightwad!

I hope you get to the bottom of this soon!
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