Thats rather condescending dont you think... I take it you have gone through this experience.

People suffer from the loss of their pets every day, through all manner of accidents /illness.. do you think that dont see the pain and suffering their dogs go through..

Whether you loss your beloved pet though a snake bite or any one of a hundred reasons, people will feel the pain of their loss equally as badly

If there was a risk of Dog Killing snakes in my back yard, i would not let my dog out there un supervised, just as i would let my dogs go out & play on a road!!!!!

Losing a dog in any circumstances, should surely make you want MORE lovely positive happy times, not living with electric shocks,stringing up,kicking, sticking on prong collars, & pining, Losing a dog should make us all appreciate them more & make their life as AMAZING as possible, just how they do for us.

Id rather a minute of Joy than a hour of pain

Hi,

I don't think Gnasher meant anythig patronising TBH. I, for one, have kept non-venomous snakes and have been bitten by a 4 ft python. painful at the time, yes - life threatening, no.

I have only read about the horrible death that is suffered from rattler bites (whther the victim is human or animal), have no personal experience of such a situation and can only imagine how nasty the death would be.

Yes I along with everyoe else am aware of how painful it is to lose a dog. The circumstances, for me, go out the window when I lose a pet. The point is, they've gone. But I think I'd feel much worse and definitely guilty if they suffered a death as painful as one of these bites is supposed to be.

Laura xx

Adders are a real danger to dogs in the uk, so we do have to keep a look out for them!

Again - this is not about how painful it is to be bitten...it is that some people seem to feel that using an e-collar is the only way to stop a dog from getting bitten.

Hi,

OK sorry - I misunderstood the post then.

E-collars are something I don't agree with. As stated, adders are a threat to dogs here depending on where you take them. But I think there are better ways of training a dog not to show interest in adders, or anything else for that matter.

Personally I use positive methods to train my dogs that don't cause pain or discomfort of any kind. Admittedly they may take longer to get the point across, but not that much longer.

Laura xx

he wasnt unsupervised and the snakes killed him,like I said you never know where wild animals will wander

The snake was in their kennel slept under the doghouse and when the dogs were put in their kennel for the night they disturbed the snake.

The comment about the microwave shows that you haven't a clue how an e-collar works and how to use it.

Someone mentioned static electricity as a reference but it is more like when you put the 2 lips of a flat battery against your tongue

Well I can tell you pretty much 100% that a shock coller would not work with my high prey drive girl
She squeezed through 2 electric fences - getting shocked each time to get to a field of sheep
Afterwards she knew the fence would hurt her and would not come back till I found a gate for her - but the shock was not enough to stop her
so to 'train' her to overcome her prey drive the shock would have to be pretty nasty - I have been shocked by an electric fence and it is lots worse than a battery