Do you have to work hard SB at being so obnoxious? Your patronising and condescending way of addressing those people who you clearly do not like is rude in the extreme. But never mind, setting that aside, you make some interesting comments which i will attempt to address.

I am trying to present some illustrations of very, very rare occasions when I WOULD kick a dog. I personally do not think it acceptable to kick any animal unless one were fighting for one's life. I gave the example of a dog pinning me down by the throat - extremely unlikely to happen, I agree, but I am trying to give an extreme example. If the dog in question were a bitch, then a well-aimed kick (not in the testicles of course!) would be just as effective - have you ever been punched in the breasts? I have and it is extremely painful!

There are many things that I can comment upon without having personally experienced - after 58 years of living as me, I think I probably know pretty well how I would behave in any given situation, and I know that unless it were life-threatening, I would not kick any animal, humans included.

Actually I disagree about Holly - she attacked CM. She lunged forward at him in a full on attack, and frankly I cannot blame her. The man was behaving like an idiot and deserved all he got. However, the resulting injury was nowhere near as bad as it could have been, she was restrained in her attack. The injury to which I refer inflicted upon OH was much worse than the one in question.

Regarding the point about talking semantically, whereas you might be correct in your criticism of my english - what I should have said is "I was talking semantics" - I was not aware that Dogsey demands perfection in the use of the english language. As far as I am concerned, we are here on this part of the forum to talk "dog", not be overly concerned about the correctness of our use of the english language!

Oh Gnasher, you are entertaining.

Oh Gnasher, you are entertaining.

He is coming here next year........

When? I take it he will be doing some talks/seminars? Do you have dates/places? Know where I can find more information???

Sorry to be so off topic.

I think we can all agree that this shows how not to 'train' or 'rehabilitate' a food guarding case. I am glad we all know better and hope we can spread the word.