Oh, really? That is adorable.

In my defence , Ginnie the jap chin had a grade 5 heart murmur and breathing problems due to being a brachycephalic
breed. I adopted her when her owner died . she was about ten and a real character but sadly i only had her for 18 months .

Anyway back to dogs seeing other dogs as prey , it's believed that larger dogs can display predatory behaviour towards smaller dogs known as predatory drift but not all finish the predatory sequence i.e. kill .

What exactly happened before the attack ? Sorry if this brings back bad memories.
I've seen dogs kill squirrels and rats in exactly the same way, grab bite and shake to break the neck. it is an instinct to go for the back of the neck but they generally are practised or experienced to finish off the animal that quickly.


I've fortunately never seen a dog kill another dog , I dont think it would do it in the same way as they do prey unless they saw it as prey .
If you think of wild dogs or wolves , I'm would assume they evolved to fight by attacking the vunerable parts of their opponent , they would be more evenly matched and there wouldn't be much point in trying to lift and shake (to snap their foe's neck ) another dog thats nearly the same size .
The vulnerable parts would be the throat or abdomen and easier to damage than the back of the neck and head.

Well, it's like I said. The unfortunate encounter of a nasty little dog and a big dog who doesn't take any crap from other dogs. The dogs were both off lead in the local park, illegal but everyone does it. Poodle saw AB and charged yapping and as the owner ran to try and get him back. Check out this video, it'll help you understand.

Dibby, search YouTube with this line....

Pit bull attacking poor little dog on the street

Watch that video. I'm not going to post it here. No dogs died or were severely injured, and there is no blood and gore so don't worry. My next statements after you watch that will give you an excellent understanding of the attack I saw.

This little dog was not badly injured. The bulky dog went for the neck, but missed, getting mostly the shoulder and his head is not shaking a lot. Both owners are at fault, neither dog is leashed or under control.

Now imagine if he clamped a crushing bite on the throat in his strong jaws (not a loose grip like he has) and vigorously shook his head non-stop. Now imagine it takes everyone a while to approach the fight... the little dog would be dead before anybody could help.

This little one is lucky. In other news, what rubbish owners of the big dog. What's the point of smacking him AFTER he already let go?

ohhh sad story mjfromga, I watched the video-horrible. And yes you guys are right, nobody knows what will come in all the years with myrsky, better to take an insurance, thanks the reminder
My boyfriend found out that in our area is kind of a dog class, maybe more a meeting, where you can come and go whenever you like for only 2 euros. I will check it out, this could be a opportunity for myrsky to meet all different dogs. For training he is very good he knows already sit, lay down, give paw, leave it/drop it, stay and walking is also better (he comes when there are distractions/not always by the first call) I watch some youtube videos for training (for example from kikopup)I suppose the trainer will speak finnish. But I'll give it a try

kikopup is brilliant. Myrsky is learning alot, pups are like little sponges at this stage . Good luck with the class if you decide to go .
Don't be afraid to step in and protect your pup if you feel he is being bullied or if he is being the bully.
I walk with my OH and sometimes with between 4 to 6 dogs . If a dog rushes up with intent then we stand in front of them and especially with the ones that we know will attack them .


Maria , will look for the video . have very little experience with pit bulls as they are now banned here though we have a lot if am bulls and staffies , they are lovely dogs in the right hands .

Both my Pip jrt x staffie and Libby chi x are reactive because they have been attacked more than once , they would in some cases run up and bark at other at other dogs because it's attack is the best defence. JRTS are notorious for doing this . To the best of my ability , I stop them from doing this because like you said, its a nuisance and its not fair to other dogs , it can also scare
the other dog , big dogs can be timid too .
I would consider it my fault if my dogs ran up barking to a dog and got attacked.

My Jade will attack small dogs entering her space. She is muzzled in public places and kept on lead. A small dog, looked like a Puggle, charged into her space and she instantly attacked with everything she had, pining him down, viciously snarling, and shaking her head vigorously.

However, a muzzle and being leashed meant she could not bite, and I could easily tug her off. No harm, no foul. In any case, dangerous or reactive dogs can injure or be injured and should be under proper restraint. My Nigredo thinks reactive dogs are playful dogs, and he dodges the snaps and runs circles around them.

Legally, I don't have to muzzle Jade, but if by accident her leash breaks, or someone or something barges in her space before I can stop it, if she latched onto it, being a Gsd and pit bull cross, it's going to be extremely hard for me to stop severe injuries from occurring. Why risk it?

Also, my name is Myra, not Maria, though I like that name better than mine

As I live in a rural area my two rarely get to meet other dogs because most of the dogs are farm or guard dogs and are never walked by their owners ... in fact my two are the only ones who wear collars. Despite that, when we go to training they're both very good when meeting and mixing with other dogs both large and small.

The first few times, Gwylim my Schnauzer who'd never seen a really large dog before was fearful and would growl and back away from one. For the most part he's now quite relaxed with most dogs, but if he feels a bit nervous he'll come and press himself against my leg.

Georgina, my Pei is a delight around other dogs whatever their temperament because she's such a calm dog and isn't perceived as a threat. I was surprised because considering her history of eye problems and resultant anxiety I'd assumed she'd be nervous around other dogs. When I told Gabor her trainer about being surprised, he just grinned and asked me what else did I expect from a Shar-Pei!

Myra, oops , so sorry about getting your name wrong , both are nice names. I have a very bad memory and I blame that on old age Also I apologise in advance if I get it wrong again. Names get fixated in my head. I call Pip, Luke sometimes which is my DS's name. Mine's Alison.

My OH inherited a dog Barney from his aunt and he doesn't like strange dogs entering his space either so OH will slip a muzzle on if he sees a dog running up. he tends to keep him on retracting lead if the park is busy . Its enough to inhibit barney from taking a grab at it as he will bite whereas my two don't.


Generally , dogs do suffer from Post traumatic stress disorder and may also have bruising which isnt so noticable as bite marks and may not be apparent .
Scraps between dogs that know each other happens,and I wouldnt interfere but I think there is a huge difference between that and being chased in circles by a strange huge dog intent on a tiny dog that is aware its in a dangerous situation , it must be frantic to get away .
So while I dont pick Libby up constantly an she enjoys running around fields and through the woods with Pip , I will be cautious and protect her if I feel the need to .

Good morning!
Actually,to come back to the main topic, my partner was very upset and sad yesterday, because myrsky is still mouthing his clothes and hands..he tries hard with giving other toys instead, take his hands off/ leave, saying no, and basically saying sit when he doesn't stop. sometimes my boyfriends voice gets a little louder (he's got already a very deep voice) I tell him to stay calm, but he is frustrated and said myrsky doesn't like him. Its just so weird he isn't doing it with me.We have to be patient I know,.....just had to tell you -.-

The spitz or Northern breeds can respond like this to different people within the house. I remember Hal was a little sod with mike when he was a pup, but more gentle with me. It could simply be that myrsky recognises that you are female and therefore deserve more respect and gentler handling! Whatever the reason, it is normal puppy behaviour and your partner should not take it personally! Your partner needs to stay calm, no raised voice, but at the same time be firm ... It is in situations like this that I like the stiff raised finger coupled with a sharp noise like oi or ah-ah. Never use force of course, I know you wouldn't but sometimes it can be tempting when a needle tooth has just ripped your favourite sock! it sounds to me like you're doing great! Well done you!