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Location: God's Own County
Joined: Apr 2005
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Just a quick reply(OMG look at the time, but i couldn't sleep)as I have only seen bits of the program(it's on the hard drive of my digibox)
As someone who has a dog with Syringomyelia diagnosed by MRI scan-who is by a dog with SM(who was PTS before his 3rd birthday) I have to take exception to the remarks that dogs with genetic conditions should not be shown or be placed. Loukar has no symptoms at all. He was scanned at the request of the stud dog owner(who also bred the stud dog)
not because he had any symptoms himself.
Why should we not show him(he's retired now BTW) & win with him, dog shows are beauty shows in the UK based on the dogs outward appearance not their genetic makeup ?
He has never & will never be bred from & this I obviously do agree with & until the DNA of the Cavalier is mapped & marker genes found then only dogs that have been MRI scanned clear should be bred from & if they produce an affected puppy then they should be withdrawn from the gene pool.
As he has SM this means his mother must be a carrier & also means at best the rest of the litter are carriers. So imagine my disgust when I discovered that his brother was being used at stud(& for all I know still is)& that his mother had been sold as a brood bitch & was mated again after Loukar was diagnosed. For publicly stating that I disagreed with Lou's brother being used at stud(without naming him or his owner or breeders)I was kicked off a Cavalier forum, becuase I upset Lou's brother's owner & their breeders ! So much for freedom of speech.
Loukar's brother to the best of my knowledge has never been MRI scanned & certainly hadn't been scanned after Lou was diagnosed-but he was used at stud. He must be a carrier so using him on unscanned bitches should be a big no no. Sadly the breeder is on this forum & has started breeding again after getting rid of all her dogs except two older ones just after Milo(Lou's father was PTS)& I think has used Lou's brother at stud on one of her bitches
His breeders didn't bother to tell us that Milo had been PTS & I found out via Dog World Cavalier breed notes !! His breeders haven't spoken to us since then & didn't even bother to contact my friend when her Rikki died suddenly @ 7 despite being aware of this & my friend was(& still is) very upset about this.
The same goes for my Rjj he is a CEA carrier-he doesn't have CEA & being a carrier doesn't affect him physically at all & certainly doesn't stop him doing the job he was bred to do. If I wanted to show him why shouldn't I ?( I have no intention of showing him BTW)He can safely be used @ stud on my Jessie as she is CEA normal genetically(not planning to & in any case Rjj has had the Suprelorin implant & Jessie hasn't had a season)so their puppies would
not be affected.
My BC's are 3/4s health tested they all need their hips & elbows scoring & also clinically eye tested for PRA & will not be breeding from any of them until this is done
The program that I saw was very one sided-no mention of ABS breeders like me who do all the health testing available & no mention of the PF etc who exploit dogs to the extremes & do no health testing at all & who are outside the control of the KC if they do not register their puppies with them.
I'll be watching the program in depth & as it is on a hard drive I will be be able to study it carefully