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Originally Posted by
Gnasher
YES !! Because that way we may all want to do something more positive about the barbarity than just cry, wring our hands and have a few sleepless nights
but most of us know what goes on without the need to watch the video (and i have seen videos like this so i know what they are like) and can do things positive. just coz you watch it doesnt mean you will do anything about it!
Because as Azz said, by watching it we will become even more appalled and frustrated ... and thus take some positive action. Signing the petition is good, but it is not enough
oh, and simply watching it is going to bring about so much good! there is nothing more you can do by watching than not, as long as people are aware of what is in it!
I'm not trying to preach, just trying ... and obviously failing ... to make all of us animal lovers take positive action over and above signing the petition, that's all
well, you are preaching. watching a sick video like that does not make someone an animal lover, and to think that is ridiculous!
Originally Posted by
lilypup
gnasher the people you are raging against are the wrong ones. these are people who do go that extra mile. who do more than sit passively and wonder what they could have done. the act of getting off your backside to visit rescue centers to find a dog who desperately needs a home rather than choosing a puppy from a BYB and supporting that dreadful trade, is one of an animal lover. or to take on an animal who others would not even attempt too. let alone the work, effort and heartache that goes into caring for a rescued animal, especially a sick one, this too takes commitment and love for creatures that are so helpless at times.
really you should be targeting the ignorant. taking it to the streets or spreading the word on networking sites to people who may be oblivious to this.
nearly everyone on this thread has seen some form of torture relating to animal skinning and those that haven't are intelligent enough to imagine what takes place.
i admire your passion and desire to see this cruelty end, but you can't bully people into doing something.
excellent post! gnasher is preaching to the wrong people, and it really isnt fair what she is saying. we arent animal lovers coz we wont watch a sick video, its ridiculous. i love animals and hate all cruelty that happens. i might not do a whole lot, but i will always get my dogs from rescues (as the 2 i have had, have both come from), i dont like hunting and will never do it (unless it was a life or death situation and even though i dont know if i could do it...), i hate fur and will not wear it... the list could go on... but yet just coz i wont watch that video, im said to not be an animal lover...
Originally Posted by
Lucky Star
Thanks, Azz, for a reasoned view.
Gnasher - what on earth do you think you are doing, trying to goad and coerce people into watching something so appalling? Do you really credit people with so little intelligence that they are unable to form the opinion that something is awful and wrong unless they sit through it? That they are unable to form a view and sign a petition - or do something else - without sitting through every disgusting detail? Personally, I am more than capable and I do not need to be bullied into watching something that I know will leave me traumatised. Each to their own - you might find yourself able to sit through it without lasting damage but do not dare to think that others are like you.
excellent post!
Originally Posted by
Minihaha
Gnasher in another thread you say...
I do consider myself to be a
'fully committed animal lover' and that means I for one do not have
'the blood lust deep within me' .
All violence be it to human or animal turns my stomach .
Based on what others have said I have sufficient imagination to know what is in the videos without having to watch them, if this make my spineless well that is fine by me, I prefer to be spineless than to derive a thrill from hunting a live animal.
that is such a good point! she is preaching to us that we arent animal lovers coz we wont watch that, yet she gets a thrill from chasing a terrified animal that has a high risk of being ripped to shreds at the end! what is contained in that video is horrible, and sick. and so is getting a thrill from a fox being chased and killed... how can she preach about us being animal lovers when she makes comments like that...