You know of all the posts on these endless CM threads, this is the one that sums it up for me. Exactly. Well said.

You should meet Tilly

She has shown aggression towards dogs (not her fault, it was due to her past) and we had to use (in my mind) confrontational methods to get her out of it.

How else do you stop a 3 stone staffy from being bolshy towards another dog other than telling her off in a firm (and possibly confrontational) manner?

The you can't see for looking!

See pictures below, is the dog responsible for holding the lead up tight above his head? No that is being done by CM not the dog!

Check out point 2.20 onwards in the film clip when the dog collapses on the floor and check out what colour the dogs tongue is as it gasps for breath. It look's blue to me!

No-one said the dog went blue in the face but it's tongue certainly was blue. The dog was fighting for it's life at being asphyxiated and had nothing to do with fighting at being disciplined, for which it should have recieved no correction as it did nothing wrong.

Absolute rubbish, he hit that dog on screen for all to see. The dog didn't have any jowls and it was not the sound of a collar rattling.

Shadow showed absolutely no signs of any aggression or indeed any behaviour to be concerned with but despite this he was 'corrected' by CM. He then proceeded to abuse to the dog and strangle it until it's tongue went blue (see point 2.20 in the clip and onwards) which is clearly visible. I have no idea what you believe is a 'red zoner' but this dog did nothing to warranted it's treatment.

These are stills taken from the video.
Picture one, CM is holding the dogs lead up at shoulder height, the lead is tight around the dogs neck, you can see from this picture that the dogs behaviour is anything but aggressive, it is fighting for it's life but still has his head turned away from CM. A truely aggressive dog would not hesitate in using it's teeth in this situation.

Picture two, dog is attempting to sit yet still CM holds the lead tight up above it's head.

Picture three. Take a good look at this dogs expression, that is a dog under stress, the lead is still very tight and it is obvious from the dogs face that it is struggling. Again no look of aggression at all just distress.


So as you can see from these 3 pictures CM does indeed 'string up' dogs. You will also see at point 2.20 onwards in the clip that he does it to the point of asphyxiation where the tongue has turned blue which anyone who knows anything will realise means that the dog is not recieving oxygenated blood which means the lead MUST have cut off the air supply to a significant degree.

So regardless of what CM lovers say, the evidence is plain for all to see. CM hits dogs, strings them up and asphyxiates them in order to gain 'control'. He completely fails to read a dogs body language when they are offering appeasement gestures and continues challenge a dog despite this resulting in a very stressed animal.
If you cannot see these acts from the breakdowns you have been given then I really question your abilities with regards to dog ownership.
Becky

What kind of confrontational methods did you use.

And is she now dog friendly

Try an 8 stone dog agressive dog, who will drag a 16 stone man across the road to get to another dog who's just minding it's own business!!

We've progressed really far since I stopped 'telling her off', and shouting/raising my voice! (which was the only way I could even begin to stop her before.)

All I do now is ask for a 'watch me', with a hand signal, and I've got her sitting next to other dogs, and being in the same hall as them at training classes!

When I am calm, she is calm too, and we get much better results, and a lot quicker!

Well done Hevvur and not a roll, a kick or a strangle used.

unfortunately i feel there will be a barrage of support for cm despite the quite horrific evidence. the look of distress on shadows face is painfully obvious and how anyone would think that is acceptable is beyond me.

Thankyou!

Not one at all!

Just patience on my part, the trainers part, and all the other people at the class!
Teagan even gave up wearing her muzzle on the 3rd week of training!

now that is how to train a dog!

It sums it up for me two. For me the man is a bully and is no so called dog whisperer, he is a dog trainer and a fairly poor one at that!

I dont think either side is going to back down i just hope that the CM follows are not so blinded by his 'methods' as to think they will work on every dog in some cookie cutter format. I dread to think what would have happened if a CM fan had gotten hold of Cassie With dogs as with most things in life it takes time patience and understanding to truely resolve issues, there is no quick fix.