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24-02-2011, 12:36 PM
Originally Posted by Tassle View Post
Hmm...I am beginning to wonder about insurance companies.

With the lists of dogs that they will not insure growing - I am wondering why and how they are getting the data on these breeds or even types that are making them 'uninsurable'.

It's all about risk. The higher the risk, the higher the premium. All done on statistics. A friend of mine in our village has a gorgeous springer spaniel - he pays £40 A MONTH which sounds absolutely exorbitant. The dog is only about 4 or 5. For Tai, who is 7 or 8, we pay about £18 I think, and a bit less for Ben.
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24-02-2011, 12:37 PM
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Yes I hate that that the insurance gives you your money back when your pet dies
so you can replace them - like a car

Isn't that horrible - I agree
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24-02-2011, 12:44 PM
Originally Posted by Ben Mcfuzzylugs View Post
That isnt how insurance compainies asses risk
If more GSD's are insured then the company would have an more accurate idea of the average expected costs across the lifetime of each GSD
If less boxers are insured then the insurance company would have a less compleate picture

The policy amount is not based on how many dogs of that type insured but based on the expected cost of that breed

Insurance companies are not swayed by television programmes of gut feelings but they are out there to make money, so if a breed has higher premiums then this is because they have found that they have had to pay out more pet dog of that breed (on average) than on dogs of a different breed
That just is not true, the cost of the dog is a very small part. The biggest "risk" to insurance companies is dogs getting sick and having to have veterinary treatment. GSDs can frequently suffer from hip dysplasia, therefore it is more expensive to insure a GSD than some other breed which does not suffer from such a common genetic problem. I am taking the GSD an example because it is one of the, if not THE most popular pedigree breed. The statistics collated by the insurance actuaries will show that as a whole, pedigree dogs have more veterinary procedures than mongrels. hence the reason it is more expensive to insure a pedigree, than a non-pedigree. And now, as Tassle has rightly pointed out, there are more and more breeds being added to the uninsurable list ... because they are not a good financial risk for insurance companies. Insurance companies are in business to make money, and so they load those breeds that suffer from particular problems. I am very surprised that my friend's springer costs so much, I was unaware of any particular problem with the breed.
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24-02-2011, 12:45 PM
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They are beautiful. The Wolf-Chow was used as a counter example to the Cesky Terrier on the blog post, as it did not fare so well through tight inbreeding and selection and had to be outcrossed. A different selection process then resulted in a different breed from the original one intended.

It became the Eurasier in the end, from what I understand.

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thanx Ruby, sounds very interesting.
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24-02-2011, 12:58 PM
The way insurance premia is worked out is as follows:

Breed or type of dog
Postcode

If more labradors come in for issues than a chow chow, then this breed will be loaded, of course there are vastly more labradors in the world than chow chows.

Your postcode also brings up data about costs, crime etc etc
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24-02-2011, 01:06 PM
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I remember when I was first insuring Tassle, they asked how much I paid ...when I replied £40 - she said 'Well the minimum we pay out on the dogs death is £50 - so you would be gaining!'

I was a tad shocked to say the least that this was the attitude.
That is horrible, what a cold way to view a life and a member of someones family
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24-02-2011, 05:38 PM
Originally Posted by Gnasher View Post
It's all about risk. The higher the risk, the higher the premium. All done on statistics. A friend of mine in our village has a gorgeous springer spaniel - he pays £40 A MONTH which sounds absolutely exorbitant. The dog is only about 4 or 5. For Tai, who is 7 or 8, we pay about £18 I think, and a bit less for Ben.
Same company?
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24-02-2011, 07:52 PM
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Same company?
No, we have changed from Tesco, who wanted to up Tai's insurance to £28 per month because of his age, to an unknown one who sound really good. OH found them on compare the market - I think they are called legal something or other, they are absolutely brilliant.
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24-02-2011, 09:57 PM
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No, we have changed from Tesco, who wanted to up Tai's insurance to £28 per month because of his age, to an unknown one who sound really good. OH found them on compare the market - I think they are called legal something or other, they are absolutely brilliant.
.....Would be interesting to ring them up and find out how much a Springer would be on their insurance....if level of cover is the same etc etc.

Unless you are comparing the same companies on the same level. You would not know if they were paying above the odds for the Springers insurance - or if it is just an expensive company.
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25-02-2011, 03:14 AM
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That will be really interesting Azz, thanx for that, I shall look forward to reading it.
Done

See the thread about it here: http://www.dogsey.com/showthread.php?t=142596
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