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10-05-2012, 06:42 PM

Geoengineering/Chemtrails

Does anybody know anything about either??

They are both fact and happening now globally!!

I am not a troll...Honest!! I just haven't posted on here for a while, as I have been pre-occupied with other things, though I do still love my doggies Storm and Dottie!

Anyway, geoengineering and subsequent chemtrails are a very serious matter and is something we ALL need to be aware of, so that we can and try and stop the Governments spraying programmes!!

I'm not going to go into much detail in this post, as I have been totally ridiculed on another forum, when I spent quite a while finding and posting links about this subject! So, if anybody does want me to elaborate further, without taking the mick, I will.


This really is a very important issue and I'm just trying to make more people aware of it!!
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10-05-2012, 07:01 PM
Yes - please do elaborate
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10-05-2012, 09:13 PM
Thanks Azz for giving me a chance to elaborate!!

Basically, we are sprayed (globally) from aircraft with particles of Aluminium, Barium, Strontium, fungus, bacteria, even blood plasma has been recorded! I'm going to link to some articles and videos for your information.

I have also seen for myself the persistent 'contrails' in the sky and also, HAARP skies above where I live! I so haveo have photos to prove this, for anybody who is interested.

The reasons for this being carried out (since the late 1990s) is apparently to reduce global warming, but many people do not believe this is the real reason, especially as it has been kept so quiet and people have got into a lot of trouble for speaking out about it! Many people believe it is a depopulation method/mind control/control over food supplies (the American company Monsanto, who are responsible for most of the 'Frankenstein' GMO foods are actually developing seeds, which are able to grow in Aluminium rich soils, which most plants aren't!)

They are thousands of people now who are becoming aware of this horrible phenomenon and there are also a few anti chemtrail groups on a well known social networking site and even a group from the US who are trying to get law suits taken out against the Government for basically using the population as an 'experiment'!!

Anyway, here are a few links for anyone who is interested, but please, please keep an open mind! Contrails from planes are only formed at certain altitudes and temperatures and many of the trails I have witnessed, both personally and by video/other people's photos etc. are definitely not contrails!! We all really need to pull together on us and try to put a stop to this toxic spraying!! The more people who keep on believing that the lingering trails they see are just contrails, the worst it is for all of us!



http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/
http://www.etcgroup.org/upload/world...g_fullsize.pdf
http://aircrap.org/
Difference between Contrails and Chemtrails:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbujQndfn1M

This is just a clip, you can watch the whole film on youtube too!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zjtI6yn43Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX1-E...2z3XMz11pHZt4w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViTHu...2z3XMz11pHZt4w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM-5c...ure=plpp_video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZzgs...ature=youtu.be

This is all I'm going to link to right now. There is plenty more info on the net for those of you want to do more research.

ETA: They also did this to us in the 1960s.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62WUzOhXUG0
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11-05-2012, 11:03 AM
They've started spraying again today. Two planes just flew over in our lovely (first time in ages) Blue sky and at first there was just a contrail, then when the plane had gone on further, I noticed the chemtrail it had left. Obviously, it had done something they do a lot and turned the spray on and off again!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=Hh5z4a_eGs0

I've seen pictures this morning that they had heavy spraying in Kent early on too.
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11-05-2012, 12:03 PM
Originally Posted by Stormpants View Post
They've started spraying again today. Two planes just flew over in our lovely (first time in ages) Blue sky and at first there was just a contrail, then when the plane had gone on further, I noticed the chemtrail it had left. Obviously, it had done something they do a lot and turned the spray on and off again!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=Hh5z4a_eGs0

I've seen pictures this morning that they had heavy spraying in Kent early on too.
So, a 'contrail' is merely the engines exhaust gases turning the water in the atmosphere into visible white 'trails'

And a 'chemtrail' is something different, is that what you are telling us?

I'll say no more for now but if you wish to elaborate on exactly what a 'chemtrail' is then I'll read it.
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11-05-2012, 12:27 PM
My Mum works with a lad who is obsessed with chemtrails. He's got all kinds of things on his phone about it and thinks the government is out to kill people etc.
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11-05-2012, 12:30 PM
Originally Posted by Leanne_W View Post
My Mum works with a lad who is obsessed with chemtrails. He's got all kinds of things on his phone about it and thinks the government is out to kill people etc.
We have our own 'conspiracy theorist' in the family (aren't we lucky!) as with most things he obsesses about, there is usually at least a grain of truth in them - but the word 'obsess' is the key.

For balance just as many links stating that this is myth should be posted too.
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11-05-2012, 12:41 PM
Originally Posted by Losos View Post
So, a 'contrail' is merely the engines exhaust gases turning the water in the atmosphere into visible white 'trails'

And a 'chemtrail' is something different, is that what you are telling us?

I'll say no more for now but if you wish to elaborate on exactly what a 'chemtrail' is then I'll read it.
Ok Losos, a contrail is just water vapour which comes out of the engine, at high altitudes and usually dissipates in seconds, or at the most a couple of minutes. There is debate, though whether some contrails do linger for hours, but this is rare and it has to be just the right conditions for that to happen!

A chemtrail is sprayed from a plane (either millitary or commercial) and is made up of Aluminium, Barium and other undesirable substances. The chemtrail does not dissipate, but expands and turns into unnatural looking clouds. Also, when they have been spraying, you start to see 'Cirrus' type clouds forming underneath Cumulus, which is not normal!

Leanne_W, the lad your mum works with might not be too far wrong in his theories!

Anyway, as I said before, if you are interested in proving/debunking chemtrails/geonengineering, please do your own research. Not meaning to sound rude, but I think I have provided quite enough info to be going on with and whether or not you want to believe in this is up to you.

I certainly do, as do many people. Things just aren't right in the skies now and although I have tried to dismiss it all as just conspiracy, I no longer can, unfortunately!
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11-05-2012, 12:47 PM
Originally Posted by Tangutica View Post
We have our own 'conspiracy theorist' in the family (aren't we lucky!) as with most things he obsesses about, there is usually at least a grain of truth in them - but the word 'obsess' is the key.

For balance just as many links stating that this is myth should be posted too.
I agree about the balance Tangutica, but to be honest, I am now a bit fed up with the all the debunking. I have looked into what the debunkers have to say and I was almost swayed at one point, but now I know from what I have witnessed personally, that most of it is just disinformation purposefully put out to try and make people think that they are bonkers etc. I therefore will not be posting any links stating that is a myth, because I really believe it isn't and it is up to individuals who are interested in this subject to do their own research and then make up their minds from there.
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11-05-2012, 02:36 PM
Thanks for the info.

Well I always thought those trails were the exhausts/fuels burning - never crossed my mind that they would be chemicals purposely discharged.

While nothing would surprise in - in this world fixated with greed - but wouldn't it be easier for them just to pollute our waters? Oh I forgot, they do! With fluoride

Seriously tho, I keep an open mind about things, and doubt anything would surprise me - one thing I'm certain about, the world needs changing, we need to make it a better place.
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