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Originally Posted by
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1 See unlike Chaz I do not accept it or understand it - I want it wiped out!
Fare point, I think we all would like to see cruelty wiped out.
2 Yes in my tender years (yeah right) I have met a few but those few still do not stand up against those that dont - Seaham being a case - pretty much everyone knew it was going on but did not blow the whistle, and nothing was done until it came to the publics attention and then it was a big panic to be seen to be doing something, whilst really doing nothing at all. Unfortunately very few take their dogs home – why was the RGT set up for? So no unlike Chaz I again do not accept that all is wonderful and rosy apart from one or two trainers at the most or that a certain amount of cruelty is understandable. However, what she sees as a good dog owner/trainer of course may differ to a lot of peoples.
No, it isn't all roses, the people I've met and spoken to personally, do seem to care deeply about the wellfare of the dogs in their care, but I'd bet you've met far more people in the industry than me. Maybe, if I'd had your experiences, I'd be a bit more anti, however, saying that, I'm neither completely pro or anti, somewhere in between.
3 Again this thread is about greyhound racing - just because it goes on elsewhere does not mean that us anti's do not campaign against any other form of cruelty or should just sit back and accept it and ‘understand’ it – sorry but I could never understand cruelty or those that perpetrate it.
Nobody should just sit back and except it, apathy gets us nowhere.
4 No you havent! But again its a moot point - we should all be campaigning against all forms of cruelty but as this is about commercial greyhound racing, why do some keep bringing it up?
Yes, people should be campaigning, and I'll admit, that I certainly don't do enough in that area, for the things I feel pasionate about. They mention it, to add context, but yes, I see your point.
Thank you - like Nav it is nice to be respected for my beliefs and not just ridiculed as being just out of school, believing everything I read in the press and being unable to do my own research, investigations despite me saying how involved I have been.
Your welcome. Again, you've probably had more experience in this field than I have.
I agree I have always said there are a few good ones in the industry - just not enough and many not strong enough to take a stand against the bad and that the fines etc are no where near enough to stop it - hence me wanting the commercial side of it taken away.
Like I've said already, the ones I've met, seemed to care about their dogs, and I mean really care. It is a great shame that some people feel that they can't speak out, though, cowards get little sympathy from me, and tbh, I don't think our animal cruelty punishments are harsh enough in this country, but conciddering the state of the justice system, and the overcrowding in prisons, I don't see it changing any time soon.
Or that all veggies hug trees!!?!?!?
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Lol if I saw anyone hugging a tree, I'd think they were drunk or high, not vegie.