Indeed!

No they paid £600 for him, same as all the other pups in the litter. The price was advertised on CD.

I was thinking about this the other night and I thought what about just registering him in my Dad's name when his papers come through as it's only my Mother that has signed the sales receipt?

He won't be used for breeding tbh, my parents just wanted a pet I'll only show him here and there nothing major. It's just nice for me to keep my hand in with Spaniels and also nice for Rossi to get out and about (he adores everyone!). That's why I can't understand the breeders problem, we really won't be any competition at all!

Yes he was the same price, I think they're just cutting off their noses to spite their face tbh.

I can't stand all the competitiveness and the whole "show quality" thing. Surely every dog should be a pet first and fore most and anything else is a bonus!

Nothing wrong with his bite that I know of, but then I do try and keep my hands out of his mouth at the moment! I'll see what they say at Ringcraft on Wednesday, they'll let me know if he has anything major wrong with him.

Just looked at that, I'm thinking it doesn't apply in this case as they're talking about endorsements on the KC registration as opposed to endorsements on the pup itself?
He was bred by Eastriding, his Dam is a very nice dog and one of my personal favourites.

I'll have a go with him, thinking about taking him to Manchester, but he'll literally be 6 months and 6 days!

Dare ya

I know! It'll be Oscar's second Champ Show and my friend will be taking her friends Spin pup - that's 3 puppies in the back of the car all the way to Stafford!

I wasn't going to enter him, but the ESS judging isn't "racist" and if I don't it'll be May before I can take him to another one......

Whos judging you and do they have a minor puppy class.
Gracies 20 days too young, and we have a mp class not fair ;D

suki my pup couldnt be KC registered as her mum milly was sold as a "pet" and not to be shown or to be used for breeding. the owners werent fully aware of this until they came to register the pups. sukis litter was an accident anyway (a little early) so i dont fink they could have been registered anyway as mum was 11 months??
ATD x

Hi,

Firstly a sales receipt will not stand up legally as a contract, regardless of who signed it. If it's a formal contract that has been signed, at least check exactly what it says.

Also, it's you who wants to show him, yes? YOu haven't said that you signed anything for the pup so there is no agreement between the breeders and yourself regarding wherther the dog is a pet or show dog.

If you only want to do it for fun anyway just go ahead and do it.

It would cost the breeders an absolute fortune to stop you legally, and that's assuming it's specified properly in the contract.

Zane's breeder told me ages ago I couldn't show him. I told him exactly where to go as he has dodgy breeding practices. These people are bullies. Don't let them get to you.

Having said that, I can understand breeding endorsements going onto the registration but where's the harm in showing. They shoul dbe really happy, fo ryour parents and their pup.

Laura xx

I wonder why breeders bother then? Especially when people who say a responsible breeders should do it and then advise people to ignore anything in the contract?


I hope no one who is not as responsible as Rips


Can I ask though how you would feel if people told your puppy owners to ignore your contract?

I havent read all the post, sorry, but I find it strange that a breeder would try and prevent a dog from their breeding being shown, if there wasnt a reason for it? ie bite incorrect, very poor front, bad feet, pasterns, overangulated incorrect coat, to me the dog looks fine but I dont know the breed standard. and I am presuming the breeder does? I just dont get the "jealous" angle, and that they sold the wrong pup and have sour grapes? I am guessing there is a fault that has not been noticed by the owner because they adore thier dog, it is ALWAYS difficult to critique your own dog. I guess the only way you are going to find out for definate is by showing the dog and seeing if he is faulted for anything or if he takes the ring by storm lol

Mo

I know the people who bred your parents puppy & TBH I'm not surprised at their attitude. Nothing to do with you, but they aren't(being PC here)not the best of losers in show competitions, as I have witnessed first hand over the years-including hearing some very unpleasant remarks about a dog that beat theirs in the ring(the other dog went on to get made up into a full champion & it wasn't the same breed as theirs).

If you want to show him & there's nothing to stop you-go for it is my advice, there's nothing they can do to stop you. I would love to see what reason they could give a court for selling a puppy at full price & then trying to stop it being shown because they don't want it to be !!!

Not breeding and not showing are two completly different things and i'm suprised you cant see it.
As far as i'm concerned Ems mum should be able to show if she wants, if she bought it as a pet I can see why they wouldnt want it bred from which is completly different.
As they saying goes "you pay your money and you take your chance" the judges will decide whos right abou tht equality of the puppy.
With regards unenforced contracts, whilst your right I cant stop someone breeding I can stop the KC from registering the pups (I forgot to lift my own restrictions on one of my dogs and I can assure you the KC refused to register the litter and wrote to me).
Also lifotng restrictions is one of the few things you cant do online, you have to do it in writing.