Originally Posted by
Steve Wishart
I don't know Evie and I know nothing of any research on raw feeding, so how was I supposed to know... ?"
Perhaps it might have been an idea to have looked into it
before making statements about what you consider to be correct generic `one size fits all` feeding requirements ?
As for Evie wanting an argument, that is
not her way, and though Evie certainly does`nt need anyone fighting her corner for her, you having a go at her, one of the nicest, most unassuming, and most caring people you`d be lucky to meet, that will get peoples backs up
It's also said that in a nutshell, I expected everyone here on Dogsey to not be clued up, to be honest, I had no expectations whatsoever when I posted the opening post.
Given your comment about what you were told by `someone` about the forum, oh I think perhaps you did come here with expectations and its reflected in your tone somewhat
WHat a shame you have let someone else`s view colour yours before you ever typed a word here.
It was purely to help any new owners who didn't know any better and who were thinking of spashing out plenty of cash on a behaviourist who will only tell them to do one of the things I listed, apologies for taking the time to help people who don't know any better
Sorry, did`nt realise no one was able to help others until you came along, however has Dogsey coped the last few years
and upsetting all you know-it-all's
You are posting all sorts of stuff based on theories which were outdated before you were even born, you have a blinkered view to anything said by anyone who yes, does know better than you, [ many have been around the learning block also before you were born ], and you call us the `know it alls` for not accepting
your every word ?
I think you need to take a step back and see how your posts come across
who had nothing better to do than to pick it apart with a fine tooth comb and pull me up on things that weren't even said and things that despite being labelled wrong, are still essentially the same thing. Again, too bloody pedantic.
Things not said means gaps, and that means people not being fully armed with information. Anyone posting suggestions for behavioural issues has a duty to give as much information as possible. But hopefully you`ll learn that when you have more experience yourself.
Evie, I stopped reading your latest post in reply to mine after the 1st quote of mine was misunderstood by you. The question mark was in general to the paragraph,
it wasn't me asking for your opinion on wether or not dog's need walking for different periods, especially seeing as I said that they do in my first post.
Your first post stated "two proper 45-60 minute workouts per day. ", the only exceptions being pups, old dogs, and "dogs with short noses with difficult breathing, such as bulldogs and pugs"
But then, I suppose I did create this topic as a post for generally anybody to read and as such, every know it all
there you go again with the name calling
has posted thinking I am talking about a direct reference to their dog for some strange reason.
Of course they do ! When you write something generalised as you did, are people supposed to read it and think `ah, he means everyone else`s dog but not mine` ??
Dogs are different, dogs can't be generalised and neither can their behaviour,
Exactly ! That`s why there have been comments to make it clear that a `simple three steps` is nothing of the sort
because all dogs are different
Oh and as for flooding, that has no bearing what so ever on my ability to train dogs or is it a measured opinion on my behavioural courses.
I`m sorry but the methods someone uses absolutely do have a bearing on their ability to train dogs, because the methods they use reflect how much understanding or not that trainer has of getting into a dogs psyche...
Anyone who thinks flooding is a good idea is sadly lacking in that understanding
At least I understand the term as opposed to being some bloody narrow mindedly fickled to rule it out without actually understanding everything about it.
Oh please, if we did`nt understand it, [ we presumably only having been born yesterday
], we wouldn`t be challenging it, its because we
do understand that we are making sure readers are aware of the pitfalls of letting anyone do it to their dog.
Sorry to all of those who have actually taken the time to be decent members and have made an effort at making me feel welcomed,
You were welcomed, including by me, if you remember I said I did`nt like your beliefs about dogs but liked your style - it seems you have`nt been able to maintain that style for very long though- since the first time anyone said anything which disagreed with you as it goes.
sadly, it appears that too many members here are so pig-headed, deriving their own opinions on what others DON'T say (thats a first in my forum experience and I have many)
That is what sets Dogsey apart from other forums - we are not sheep, we don`t just get spoonfed stuff and swallow it without question, and yes many here have more experience than you and you don`t like it, you expect people to listen to you without question and its you who are utterly dismissive of those who are filling in the gaps which you have left wide open.
and as such, I'm not too sure if this place will allow me to achieve what I wanted to join for, to learn more. I thought that I could learn a thing or two, unfortunately, I have done so in a very condescending way and in a very misunderstood way and I'm not too sure if I wish to hang about in this place for much longer.
You say you want to learn yet anything anyone says which differs from what you believe causes you to name call and treat people like numpties.
I was warned by several members upon joining that this place had too many people who quite frankly had their heads up their own backsides,
If `several` think that then why are they still members themselves`, why would `they` stick around
I dismissed it, but now it appears that this may very well be true.
Steve, you came here rolling in like an all knowing guru type with an attitude of thinking no one here knows one end of a dog from the other,[ at least that is how your posts now make you appear ], and that you are the only one anyone should listen to - you saying people should read everything and make their own minds up does`nt really carry sincerity in conjunction with the way you put things I`m afraid, its comes over as `pfffft, if you think someone else knows better you can take a running jump`
The fact is that no-one is `all knowing`, but you need to accept that many do know more than you, have
considerably more experience than you, and if you genuinely came here to learn that means
listening when people explain the rights or wrongs of this or that method, not just throw other peoples long earned experience and knowledge in their faces when they take the time to discuss things with you.
I do hope if a client questions what you suggest that you don`t treat them with same contempt and knee jerking as you have treated some here
If you want to start again in a different frame of mind including more of a sense of humour and less prickliness you might find yourself getting a much better reception generally
Me, I`m going to buy a feather duster to add to the armoury, thanks to Shona and Boobah trying something I would never have thought of