How do i get pup to listen to me when we go out?

Things are so good at home he is 99-100% at every command.

as soon as we go out he sits on command-only on the lead, and i am trying to teach him 'down' all on his lead, but nothing he doesnt even look at me!

i know the outside is still new to him even after 5 months of going out!

i was slighty upset today aswell took him over the grassy bit about 8.30 for a quick walk and he wouldnt come back his Never done his he always comes back im standing & kneeling, walking, jogging, waving, looking like a prat with him running off....then im screaming 'NO!' as he runs into the bloody road, not a sausage nothing didnt even look at me carried on going

i wonder if getting a long training line will help? he doesnt even care if i have treats when we are out to listen!

think im just down today anyway as ive started crate training him to leave him alone = 30mins of quite & 10mins of barking and crying, his normally crated for 45mins a day anyway with No noise.
and ive had 3 hours of non stop crying (not in the crate)-cos im ignoring him now.

He goes mad if i leave the room, dont look at him, but take him outside.......he couldnt care less if i was there or not!! flippin pup!!!

Yes, using a long line is a great idea... and don't let him off it until his recall is perfect... Don't call him, if you're not sure he'll come to you. Try and tire him out a bit, before you take him places, like playing ball or tug. Make sure you always make a big fuss of him every single time he comes when called, even if he's just killed a cat...

I am clicker training Buzz - he's learned to walk at heel on leash, sit/stay and down/stay, ring a bell, when he want to go potty, potty on command and come when called... He'll break up play with another dog to come, when I call him...

Cheers
Lene

Some dogs find it difficult to transfer things they have learnt inside to outside
I would build up slowley - go somewhere with v few distractions like the back garden 1st and then build up to more distractions
I also found puppy classes good for commands with distractions - but you are prob not ready for that yet

I would also look at his SA inside the house - it is really stressfull for him to HAVE to be with you all the time
Heaven knows I have a velcro dog who has to know where I am but once I am settled somewhere he goes off and does his own things
Can you even go to the loo without him?? I would just matter of factly close doors sometimes when you go into a new room, ignore his tantrum and ignore him when you go back into the room
give him fuss and love when he is being clam and relaxed
the crate training should help lots

Since your dog is bound to be good indoors, why not train outside instead! Sometimes dogs don`t understand that what they do in one place (the garden) also is done outside anyway, so you need to train outdoors anyway. Go out a lot, but build in 10 minutes training to each walkies and you`ll soon see results. And make learning fun.

Is there a training class near you, he might benifit from a little bit of structured training and it would help socialise him as well.

My shar pei used to be great in doors but out doors she thought that was her time, cause everything was 100 miles an hour, I have learnt from that mistake lol...Be as interesting as you can be to him when your out, that might sound daft but hes gotta think your the best thing in the park and the best thing to be with, have fun and don't feel too bad he is only young.
Good luck xx

i think for your sanity and his safety you have to keep him on a lead until he has perfect recall. I had the same problem with my bichon going awol on me while my ckcs listened and did anything i asked her.

to make me interesting on a walk i made sure i had her favourite food (chicken) and that she knew it was in my pocket - i also made sure she was hungry! i worked in an enclosed playing pitch with her giving her chicken before i took off her lead and then everytime she did as i asked she got some more. I always put my hand in my pocket to get the treat and then reduced the amount of times she got something until she was getting nothing but a generous pat on the head and slap of the rump! atm if i put my hand in my pocket my two will stop what they are doing and come a sit by my feet

with the sa - as Archie is half bichon - that seems to be a real breed trait! Princess is carefree and happy but only if im in the room - she does come and check i havent fallen down everytime i go to the loo! she will go out to her kennel at night no hassle tho' so it hasnt been much of a problem. good luck with your crate training.

A training/long line is definitley a good idea as it will give your dog a bit of extra freedom but also you will be able to reel him in if needed.

I would start doing all your training outside now and start off in a place where there are few destractions and take him out hungry.

Make sure the treat(s) you use for training (especialy recall) are extremley high value (smelly cheese/hotdogs etc) and use only these treats for training.

Whe you are doing the training exercise (not sure what methods are using so I cant comment on these) set your dog up for success and not to fail - foe instance, if you are training recall, recall him abck to you initally when he is only a foot away (using a very high pitched giddy fun tone) - once he learns recall from that distance then increase your distance.

If your dog wanders off, shouting after it and running after it doesnt help most of the time - I fine running in the opposite direction calling the dogs name in a high pitched fun tone does the trick but I undertstand your apprehension to do this if you dog had already made its way into the road.

I also find we use the word NO excessively in every day use and some dogs get confused by it - I use the word 'WRONG' in a very deep tone and it does the trick

Are you sure your dog has separation anxiety rather than just attention seeking?

A squeaky toy works for Axel infact one of the squeaks out of the toy I always keep in my pocket, I call him first but if he is ignoring me ( which he often does) I squeak and when he comes to me I reward him with a treat. I only use this if calling him hasn't worked I don't over use it. Axel knows if I squeak he gets a treat.